East vs West?

“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.” – Donald Trump, 08 August 2017

“The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime.” – Donald Trump, 19 September 2017

“He is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of a country, and he is surely a rogue and a gangster fond of playing with fire, rather than a politician.” – Kim Jong-un, 22 September 2017

“Whatever Trump might have expected, he will face results beyond his expectation. I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U.S. dotard with fire.” – Kim Jong-un, 22 September 2017

“Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me ‘old,’ when I would NEVER call him ‘short and fat?’ Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend — and maybe someday that will happen!” – Donald Trump, 11 November 2017

“It’s not a mere threat but a reality that I have a nuclear button on the desk in my office. All of the mainland United States is within the range of our nuclear strike.” – Kim Jong-un, 01 January 2018

“North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the ‘Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.’ Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!” – Donald Trump, 02 January 2018

“I probably have a very good relationship with Kim Jong Un.” – Donald Trump, 11 January 2018


It would be hilarious, were it not so pathetic, that we can predict when Trump’s approval rating will rise.  On the very rare occasions that he has done something perceived as being the right thing, such as his State of the Union Address in January, his approval rating goes up … not a lot, mind you, but up over 40%. It gradually drops back down to its normal 35% – 37% until the next time.  I knew today before I even looked that it would be up, simply because of his agreement to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in May to discuss nuclear disarmament.  Members of Trump’s base have worn their palms raw from clapping so hard.  But hold on just a minute, folks …

While many are praising Trump for accepting the invitation to meet with the North Korean leader, and are holding out high hopes for wonderful results, I view the potential meeting, should it even take place, with some degree of trepidation.  A large degree of trepidation, actually.  Why?  Because a meeting between these two strange personalities playing at being world leaders is a recipe for potential disaster.  Both are hot-headed, narcissistic, megalomaniacs who have been throwing barbs and insults across the sea at each other for more than a year (see above).  Surely you don’t think that just because they are in a room together, they will each suddenly become calm, rational and intelligent beings whose only goal is to promote global peace, do you?

First, there is the main goal of the meeting.  While both Trump and Kim use the same terminology, ‘denuclearization’, they define the word quite differently.  For Donald Trump, denuclearization means North Korea giving up their nuclear program and cessation of all further nuclear tests.  For Kim Jong-un, the more likely ideal outcome would be a bilateral disarmament and would also likely include reversing sanctions Trump has imposed on North Korea, as well as withdrawal of U.S. troops from the peninsula.  If Trump goes into this meeting thinking to take without giving, he will be sorely disappointed.

Second, this is not the way in which diplomacy happens.  Now, I know some may jump in and say that perhaps this is the better way – two leaders meeting without prior negotiations and planning by seasoned diplomats.  But there is a reason ambassadors and diplomats such as State Department heads are typically involved in the initial negotiations and preparations … that is their forte, they are the experts in the field.  They lay the groundwork, feel out the other side, report back to their respective countries, and go from there.  Diplomats are trained to listen to the other side.  Trump has no penchant for listening, for he believes that his own words are the only ones of any importance. Unfortunately, we are short several diplomats in the area, and Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson is still learning the job he was ill-prepared for, and is often the subject of much ridicule in the Korean peninsula.

And third, we must consider the personalities of these two megalomaniacs.  Look again at the taunts and threats at the beginning of this post.  These are the mentalities that will meet up in a room, these are the two “men”, and I do use the term loosely, who will be trying to come to terms on something about which they both feel strongly, and which, if the talk turns to vitriol and disparagement, could threaten the security of every nation on the planet.

So yes, I am less than enthused by the prospect of a meeting between these two.  Some good may come out of it, and if so, I will be thankful and perhaps the world will breathe a sigh of relief.  But let us not lose sight of the fact that there are potential perils.

One thing that we all need to do is ignore the bombast and braggadocio that comes from not only Trump, but his White House boot-lickers as well.  It is irrelevant.  No, agreeing to meet with Kim Jong-un is not the greatest foreign policy win of the past 100 years.  No, no, and no, it does not make him the greatest ‘president’ in U.S. history.  The proof will be, or fail to be in the results, if the meeting takes place.  Until then, the media and We The People need to not fall prey to his silly self-praise.  Let him pat himself on the back as he will … just don’t watch.  Even if he pulls this off and comes back with a reasonable agreement that makes the world a little safer place, it cannot undo all the harm he has done in the past 14 months.  What he will be doing, if he succeeds in negotiating with Kim, is his job … nothing more, nothing less.

24 thoughts on “East vs West?

  1. Two nut jobs with bad haircuts and nukes meeting. What could possibly go wrong. If any other president met with Un, we would be saying that it’s the wrong move because they would be legitimizing his leadership. In Trump’s case,it’s a toss up who is more of a deluded idiot. They deserve each other.

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    • Oh yes, what indeed could go wrong! They are both nothing more than a couple of schoolyard bullies. They do deserve each other, but the rest of the world doesn’t deserve either one of them. Frankly, I think Kim probably has better sense and a bit more compassion than Trump does. Sigh.

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  2. Excellent post!

    To tRumpsky, this meeting is simply one more feather in his egoistically out-sized MAGA cap. He undoubtedly believes his “success” as a businessman is all he needs to have what could (literally) be a world-shattering meeting Add to this the fact he has absolutely NO clue on how diplomacy works and it’s a powder keg in the making.

    We can only hope saner minds will prevail … but considering there are those in the administration that actually support this fiasco, it seems rather doubtful.

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    • Thank you! It is, indeed, a powder keg in the making. I do not think that Donald Trump has the ability to control his mouth long enough to make anything positive come out of this meeting. As you said, he does not have a concept of diplomacy, international relations, globalism. He is like a child who wants his way, without giving anything in return. This is a very complex and touchy situation that I think he can only make worse. And the stakes are far too high for us to be playing Russian roulette.

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  3. Reblogged this on The Secular Jurist and commented:
    “Both are hot-headed, narcissistic, megalomaniacs who have been throwing barbs and insults across the sea at each other for more than a year (see above). Surely you don’t think that just because they are in a room together, they will each suddenly become calm, rational and intelligent beings whose only goal is to promote global peace, do you?” – Bingo!

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  4. Forget about the rhetoric for a moment and look at what is projected here?? Starting with the flags. Both sport 5 pointed stars prominently. That should tell us something? Governments are not in place for other than their own electorate. Posturing for the ignorant. To claim their vote when needed. Keeping the popularity by hitting out at others, even if verbally.

    Back to the flags. It was the satanist Alexander Crowley who made public, the association of Pentangles and black magic. Early in life, he changed his name to Aleister. He says, for magic reasons? A word he also spelt as magick
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
    The pentangle is also used by freemasons. Which may be why so many flags these days sport them? Perhaps as signs they own the places?

    Regardless, I find the pentangles on flags, to be more sinister than the rhetoric. Cheers Jamie

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    • Interesting to ponder upon, but … a bit unbelievable for me. You would get on well with my friend Herb, who is a believer in the Illuminati and sees conspiracies even in airplane contrails! Cheers, dear friend!

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  5. Jill, I have always found it interesting that Trump does not realize what he says is recorded. Unfortunately, his followers spend a lot of time rationalizing this man’s comments and actions.

    The other concern I heard a knowledgeable Korean expert ask “Who is going to be advising Trump?” We do not have an ambassador to South Korea and our most knowledgeable and experienced advisor on North Korea has just retired. Rex Tillerson is not too engaged here and apparently he has not involved his military leaders. So, we have our emotional, uniformed, shoot from the hip leader making decisions. He accepted the meeting so quickly, it took his staff a day to say “there will need to be concessions.”

    South Korea fears a provocative action by Trump, but they also fear giving the store away. With all that said, I do feel meeting is better than not and the sanctions are taking their toll. But, we need to be very prepared and skeptical of Kim Jong Un. Keith

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    • Thanks Keith! A good point about who will be advising Trump, and one I hadn’t given much thought to. Tillerson is seen as a joke over there, from what I hear. His best bet would be … actually … to ask Hillary and Kerry to come help him out! 😀 😀 Can’t you just see THAT happening? I want to agree with you about thinking it is better to have the meeting than not, but I have no trust that Trump can pull it off without making matters even worse. No confidence in that whatsoever. If I were a betting woman, I would lay odds that he will botch it. The stakes are just too high to leave it in the hands of such a loose cannon and amateur. I’m thinking he may back out, at any rate. It’s too bad he doesn’t have a doppleganger we could give a script to and send over in his stead.

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  6. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    Listing past quotes from these two FIDIOTS!! Please, stop and review …
    ‘ It is irrelevant. No, agreeing to meet with Kim Jong-un is not the greatest foreign policy win of the past 100 years. No, no, and no, it does not make him the greatest ‘president’ in U.S. history. ‘
    …. it’s another braggadocious attempt from both …

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