The Phone Call …

Bob-WoodwardBob Woodward was 28-years-old when he started work at The Washington Post in 1971.  The next year, he and Carl Bernstein wrote a series of articles on the Watergate scandals that would ultimately be called “the single greatest reporting effort of all time”.  Woodward’s career as an investigative reporter has flourished, as well as his career as an author, with 12 number one national best sellers to his credit.  He has written about every president from Nixon through Obama, and now he has written what will likely be only his first book about Trump. The book, titled Fear, is scheduled for release next Tuesday, September 11th.

Fear-WoodwardWoodward interviewed numerous sources from the Trump administration and had tried hard to arrange a meeting or conversation with Trump himself, but it didn’t happen.  However, now that the book is already printed and ready for release, Trump finally decided to call Bob Woodward.  The Washington Post has published an annotated transcript of that conversation, and while it is too lengthy for me to reproduce in its entirety, I am providing a few excerpts.  You may wish to read the entire transcript, but frankly it is mostly the same thing over and over again.  Trump makes two points:  a) that nobody told him Woodward wanted to talk to him, and b) he is the greatest president ever.  Surprised, aren’t you?  The conversation has humour value, if nothing else.

BW: I’m sorry we missed the opportunity to talk for the book.

Trump: Well, I just spoke with Kellyanne and she asked me if I got a call. I never got a call. I never got a message. Who did you ask about speaking to me?

BW: Well, about six people.

Trump: They don’t tell me.

BW: A senator. I talked to Kellyanne about it two and a half months ago. She came for lunch.

Trump: Well, it’s too bad. Of course, you and I had a conversation a couple of years ago, and so that I think got you there a little bit. And we had a conversation many years ago, if you remember, in Trump Tower.

BW: Yeah, I do.

Trump: I still remember that.

BW: I spent a lot of time on this, talked to lots of people.

Trump: It’s really too bad, because nobody told me about it, and I would’ve loved to have spoken to you. You know I’m very open to you. I think you’ve always been fair. We’ll see what happens. But all I can say is the country is doing very well. We’re doing better economically just about than at any time. We’re doing better on unemployment maybe than ever. You know, I mean, if you look at the unemployment numbers, you’ve heard me say it. And we’re doing better on unemployment than just about ever. We’re having a lot of — a lot of companies are moving back into our country, which would’ve been unheard of two years ago. If the other administration or representatives of it had kept going, had kept — you know, if the other group had won, I will tell you, that you would have, I think you’d have a GDP of less than zero. I think we would’ve been going in the wrong direction. Because regulations are such a big part of what we’ve done, Bob.

BW: I’ve got to go talk to people and see them outside of the White House and outside of their offices, and gained a lot of insight and documentation. And it’s — you know, it’s a tough look at the world and your administration and you.

Trump: Right. Well, I assume that means it’s going to be a negative book. But you know, I’m some — I’m sort of 50 percent used to that. [Laughter] That’s all right. Some are good and some are bad. Sounds like this is going to be a bad one.

BW: Well, I talked to Raj [Shah] about it. I talked to . . . I talked to Kellyanne.

Trump: Well, a lot of them are afraid to come and talk, or — you know, they are busy. I’m busy. But I don’t mind talking to you. I would’ve spoken to you. I spoke to you 20 years and I spoke to you a year and a half or two years ago.

BW: Well, Mr. President, how can I spend all this time talking to people and — like Kellyanne and Raj and Republican senators?

Trump: Who were the senators? No, they never called me about it.

BW: Senator Graham said he had talked to you about talking to me. Now, is that not true?

Trump: Senator Graham actually mentioned it quickly in one meeting.

BW: Yes. Well, see. And then nothing happened.

Trump: That is true. That is true. Well, that — no, but that is true. Mentioned it quickly, not like, you know, and I would certainly have thought that maybe you would’ve called the office. But that’s okay. I’ll speak to Kellyanne. I am a little surprised that she wouldn’t have told me. In fact, she just walked in. [to Kellyanne] I’m talking to Bob Woodward. He said that he told you.

Conway: Yes.

Trump: About speaking to me. But you never told me. Why didn’t you tell me? I would’ve been very happy to speak to him. All right, so what are you going to do?

BW: Well …

Trump: So I have another bad book coming out. Big deal.  I mean, you do know I’m doing a great job for the country. You do know that NATO now is going to pay billions and billions of dollars more, as an example, than anybody thought possible, that other presidents were unable to get more? And it was heading downward. You do know all of the things I’ve done and things that I’m doing? I’m in the process of making some of the greatest trade deals ever to be made. You do understand that stuff? I mean, I hope.

BW: Certainly, I understand and I would’ve loved to go through a discussion with you about NATO, because this goes back to early in your administration and your concern about it, and the agreement that the countries have that they would increase their defense contribution, what is it, by the year 2024?

Trump: Well, you know last year, if you see the secretary, Stoltenberg, he said I believe $44 billion just last year, and that was from last year’s meeting. And this year it’s much more money they’ve agreed to put up. So it’s a tremendous amount of money. No other president has done it. It was heading down in the opposite direction. So I don’t know if you’re going to report it that way; probably not. But that’s too bad, but that’s all right, but you know, one of those things.

BW: Everything is going to be factual. And it is not a good thing for my business, if I may say this to you, Mr. President, to the presidency, or to the country, to not have real, full exchanges on these. And I broke my spear on it trying to get to you.

Trump: Well, other than Lindsey, who did quickly mention it, nobody mentioned it.

BW: You say Kellyanne’s there, ask her.

Trump: Nobody told me about it. Well, let me ask her. Why don’t you speak to Kellyanne. Ask her. She never told me about it.

BW: Kellyanne?

Conway: Bob, how are you? Hi.

BW: Hi. Remember two and a half months ago you came over and I laid out, I wanted to talk to the president? And you said you would get back to me?

Conway: I do. And I put in the request. But you know, they — it was rejected. I can only take it so far. I guess I can bring it right to the president next time.

BW: Yeah.

Conway: But I try to follow all the protocols, or else I’m accused of being somebody who doesn’t follow protocol.

BW: Yeah, well, about six or seven people. I tried. And I couldn’t have — you and I spent a whole lunch on it, Kellyanne. And I said, I want to cover the substantive issues in foreign policy and domestic policy. And you said you would get back to me. Nothing.

Conway: But anyway, I’ll give you back to the president. And I’m glad to hear that you tried through seven or eight different people. That’s good. You should tell him all the names. [Laughs] Thank you.

Trump: But you never called for me. It would’ve been nice, Bob, if you called for me, in my office. I mean, I have a secretary. I have two, three secretaries. If you would’ve called directly — a lot of people are afraid . . . Raj, I hardly have . . . I don’t speak to Raj. It doesn’t matter. Let me tell you what matters: The economy is the best it’s been in many, many decades. And it’s going to get a lot better. And the country is doing very well. That’s what’s important.

BW: Yes, sir. I thought I would . ..

Trump: We’re doing a good job. I’m just hearing about it. And I heard — I did hear from Lindsey, but I’m just hearing about it. So we’re going to have a very inaccurate book, and that’s too bad. But I don’t blame you entirely.

BW: No, it’s going to be accurate, I promise.

Trump: Yeah, okay. Well, accurate is that nobody’s ever done a better job than I’m doing as president. That I can tell you. So that’s . . . And that’s the way a lot of people feel that know what’s going on, and you’ll see that over the years. But a lot of people feel that, Bob.

BW: I believe in our country, and because you’re our president, I wish you good luck.

Trump: Okay. Thank you very much, Bob. I appreciate it. Bye.

Listen to the call   That is, if you haven’t recently eaten 😉

56 thoughts on “The Phone Call …

  1. Dear Jill,

    None of Bob Woodward’s revelations is a surprise but because Bob Woodward is a journalist with gravitas, his book cannot be ignored like the others.

    What frightens me is how precarious our US national security is in his hands.It only adds to my fury over the cowardly GOP in the US Congress not taking its oversight responsibilities even more seriously.

    Hugs, Gronda

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    • You’re right … none of what I’ve heard so far surprises me, but it does disgust me. Woodward has impeccable credentials and a stellar reputation as an investigative reporter. While I’m sure Trump & Co will make every attempt to discredit both him and his book, I don’t see how people can fail to be concerned about the debacle that is our government today.

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  2. I put myself on hold for this at my library a couple of months ago so I’m praying I’m at the top of the list. Unlike Omarosa and Michael Wolff, Bob Woodward has impeccable credentials. Even Trump admits in that bizarre phone call that Woodward has always been fair. People like John Kelly and James Mattis can lie and deny as much as they want. Woodward is a meticulous researcher and interviewer, and he has documents and tape recordings to back him up!

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  3. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    ‘Woodward has written about every president from Nixon through Obama, and now he has written what will likely be only his first book about Trump. The book, titled Fear, is scheduled for release next Tuesday, September 11th.’
    Seems this is a book that I must add to me reading list … it’s all over the news today!!

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  4. I listened to the call! If I were a gambler, I’d wager that one of Trump’s arms is longer than the other. All of that self back patting has to be taking its toll, by 2020 he will be tripping over one of his own hands! This man’s “bigly” ego has no limits. If he could read, perhaps a few biographies of past presidents would bring him into the realm of reality…probably not, as they would just be considered “fake news”. “Fear” will definitely be waiting on my nightstand on Sept.11th, did you notice that date?! Thank-you!

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    • You are a braver woman than I am, for while I plan to listen to it, I haven’t had the stomach for it yet. I had a serious laugh over the image of his arm being longer than the other from patting himself on the back so much! 🤣🤣🤣 And then, when you mentioned him tripping over his hands, I couldn’t help but think of my friend Herb’s expression for Trump supporters, “knuckle-draggers”! And by this time, I was literally laughing so hard I lost my breath and started choking! The moggies were staring, for it’s been a long time since they’ve seen Grammie actually laugh! So, thank you … I think you helped clear out the lungs! I will also be reading Fear on 9/11, for I pre-ordered it today!

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  5. To put it mildly, because I’m afraid someone would be coming for me otherwise, WHAT AN INFLATED EGO! that man someone stuck in the most important day to day office in this country has! And I still didn’t say it exactly the way I’m thinking it! His ego is almost as inflated as his pouty lips! I was very good here — didn’t even call hin a jackass now, did I? Have a good day Jill.

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    • Let me see if I can help you out here, for they haven’t come for me yet, and I’m not scared of them! He is a pompous, arrogant, narcissistic, megalomaniacal, son-of-a-bitchin’ jackass with no education, who can neither read nor speak in full sentences. Was that somewhat along the lines of what you wanted to say? And yes, dear friend, you were very good and did not even call him a jackass. You deserve a medal, for you have far more impulse control than I do, obviously! 😀 Hugs!!!

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      • Hahaha! I was silently using jackass among other things, and believe me, your vocabulary is much better than mine was while I was reading that. I showed it to a friend last night and her language was almost as bad as mine at the time. Did I mention that his inflated ego was almost the size of his inflated, pouting babyish lips?? So hard to believe some women find that lump attractive. Thanks for offering me a medal for impulse control. If you were around me for a few minutes you would know just how hard that is for me to do. I keep a sign across from my line of sight that reads, “Remember to taste your words before you spit them out.” I found that on Pinterest and it fits me so well that I printed it out and framed it and put it where I’ll see it every time I look up. Maybe some day I’ll follow the advice (or remember it) when I’m tempted to say something. Hugs!

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        • Wait! Did you just say that some women find him … attractive??? You have got to be kidding me! I get ill every time I have to see his ugly mug. 🤢 I doubt that even Melania finds him attractive, but she seemed to find all those numbers in his bank balance to her liking. I love the sign! It is so true and something i try to remind myself of, though I often fail. The thing about words is that once heard, they cannot be unheard, and today’s means of instant communication make it so much easier to say something and later regret it. I try to be careful, but almost lost a dear friend earlier this year because I failed to ‘taste’ my words before spitting them out. Sigh. Hugs!!!

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          • I know some women here who think the thing is “cute” to use their word. And these are normally fully functioning women with sharp minds. Of course, I never have asked them if they are referring to the person or the pocketbook there. Thankfully I’m not that desperate for money now and hope never to ever be! One of them drove to Evansville alone to see him. Just can’t imagine being alone in that mob at night to see that! Nightmares for the rest of the week!
            So, tomorrow I’ll be taking care of another dog for another friend–this time for 2 weeks. I love that little fur ball! We have a good time together. So, time for me to call it for tonight, even tho I just got online. Just had to print out a sheet of stamps and since I had the computer open——-. Take care. Angie

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            • Hah! Those women must be into pock-marked, wobbly-bellied, fake-haired, big-eared, small-hand, flabby-butt men then! Blech. Even if I were desperate for money and thought he might give me some … I’d rather die of starvation than to so much as shake his hand. I’ve dreamed before that he came to my door, wanted to shake my hand, and I spit in his face! It’s a lovely dream …

              Oh how wonderful … a canine companion for two weeks! We have a houseful of cats, so no dogs here, but before my daughter moved back in in 1994 with her cats, I had a marvelous canine companion. He was Rottweiler/Border Collie mix, weighted 130 pounds, and thought he was still a tiny puppy. Every night he came bounding down the hallway to jump over the arm of my chair into my lap, where he would stay just as long as I would let him. Enjoy your companion! Stay in touch, though!


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              • We always had German Shepherds when the kids were young, usually one for each of them that I took care of, then added cats to the mixture when my daughter was given a cat with 6 kitten, 1 raccoon (mine), and toward the end, Australian Shepherds (Shelties, I think). wHEN I MOVED TO TOWN I FOUND A REGISTERED PEKINESE AT THE local pound — my first ever small dog. Also my last personal pet since the MS was beginning to cause problems big time. Now I don’t have my own fur babie but I am the designated sitter for a lot o the little ones in the building. Tessa and I are enjoying her stay.
                Hugs ((()))

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                • A raccoon! How awesome … never knew anybody who had a raccoon as a pet before! I am so happy to hear that you and Tessa are having a good time together! We’ve had rain all weekend and through today … I do hope you haven’t had such soggy weather, for I hate to think of you getting drenched every time you take Tessa out for a walk! Have a great week, my dear friend! Hugs!!! 🤗

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                  • My hubby brought a baby raccoon to me a week after our wedding. He thought I would be afraid of it but it was the first surprise of our marriage. Jojo was so cute and playful that everyone loved her.
                    Tessa and I are having a good time. She’s paper trained so no worries about taking her out at all. It’s been soggy heremail also and Saturday we had a tornado touchdown in a small community west of Owensboro. Not much damage, thankfully.

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                    • The raccoon sounds adorable! I’m relieved to hear that Tessa is paper-trained. I saw the pictures on your post earlier … she is such a doll. Not much new on my end except that there is so much to write about I cannot keep up and am getting discouraged, wondering if any of it does any good anyway.

                      Daughter Chris got an unexpected promotion … well, actually they had offered it to her a month or so ago, and she turned it down, for it wasn’t what she wanted. She is an RN, and the promotion is to being manager over the group’s patient call center … not quite what she had in mind, as she really likes nursing. But last Friday they offered again, making it fairly clear that she didn’t really have a choice. So, she is getting a substantial (30%) raise, and since there will be some travel involved in the job, she will be getting herself a new car before the end of the year! Looks like I may get to come down and see you after all, though it will likely be after the first of the year, or even spring if we should happen to have a blustery winter.

                      Enjoy Tessa, and be happy, my friend! Hugs!!!

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                    • Great news about her promotion! Better news about the car!!! My youngest sister is an RN and is running some kind of clinic in Colorado Springs. She went into the Air Force to pay off her student loans and the AF Academy was her last assignment so they stayed there when she left the service. She will retire this year I think, having done several jobs in hospital and clinic areas, teaching midwifery among the many talents. I think being a midwife was her favorite thing, or as she said, “catching babies”.
                      I sure agree about the political situation being “too much” to keep up with. I’m finding it more difficult to come up with the words I want for my posts. Very frustrating when they go away nano-seconds after I think of the phrase I want. As the sign said, “growing old ain’t for sissies”, and the MS just makes it worse, but I try to write things down as they come to me. Then it’s just a matter of finding the notebook that particular phrase is written in, lol.

                      Shocking news yesterday when I got home from visit with my aunt. There were police cars around the building and an ambulance parked behind the place — a sight reserved for unexpected death in this building. I asked one of the many people outside what had happened and was told someone had fallen outside the building and had passed away from the fall. And then they told me who and I found out it was one of my friends. Details are still sketchy since his body was found near the dumpster area, so apparently he was alone when it happened. I’m trying hard to leave it at that, but some niggling little fears remain. We probably will never hear any more about it because he had no living relatives to pursue it further. His little dog is missing now.

                      Ah, must stop thinking now. My brain hurts! Hair follicles also. Take care — I think I’m gonna look for an aspirin.


                    • Chris initially hoped to be a nurse-midwife, but … I honestly don’t remember what happened that she changed course, but she’s been a nurse-supervisor for the Urology Group for I think about 10 years now.

                      I can relate, my friend! Simple words … words that I have known and used for decades, hover just outside my reach. I pick a poor substitute, and then later, when I tumble into bed and just as I am on the periphery of sleep … POP … the word I was looking for and no longer need pops into my head, and then I have to ponder on where the word was when I needed it. You’re right … old age isn’t for sissies! Some days I forget that I’m old, and I’m bee-bopping about the house, then suddenly I pass in front of a mirror and think, “Who is that ol’ hag and what is she doing in my house???” Sigh.

                      OH NO!!! How awful! I can only imagine your shock to come home to all the police cars, the ambulance, and then to find out it was your friend! It sounds an odd story to me … I cannot imagine how he would have accidentally fallen, and the missing dog adds another layer of mystery. I am so sorry about your friend … and how very sad that he had no family to care about him. 😥 Let me know if you hear anything else, please.

                      Yes, stop thinking now, take some aspirins and settle in with a good book! Take care, my friend! Hugs!!!

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                    • I usually remember the missing word just as I’m about to fall asleep. If I could only program myself to just hold the thought until I can get to my UNFINISHED notes or blog post (like that will ever happen) I could quickly add the right words and make myself look almost brilliant, but no, I use the alternate thoughts and have to just admire my brilliance while trying to get back to sleep.🤣 Naturally I never get back to sleep unless I’m trying to watch a really good movie that I’ve wanted to see for a long time. I once had sleeping pills but tossed them when they didn’t work for sleep, just made a good energizer that I didn’t need at the time. If I had only realized that trying to watch a movie would do the job I would have been sleeping my life away for years.

                      I don’t have mirrors in my apartment. Just the one on the medicine cabinet, but fortunately it has cloudy type glass (more like ancient glass) so I seldom see my reflection until going past a plate glass window and wonder who is in a power chair behind me. Shocking, to say the least.

                      Well, after hearing half a dozen people telling me Jack fell outside and died there, I finally heard what is more like the truth — he was found dead in his apartment with his little dog standing guard. I really don’t pay much attention to the gossip around here because I know the people involved, but after hearing so many people telling similar stories it just didn’t occur to me they were embroidering the same mis-information. Jack hated that also, so he’s probably been having a good laugh up there at how I fell for the hype! It makes me angry now, because the building was renovated 3 years ago and all safety measures were taken out by the Property Manager, a spoiled brat who received the building to manage by his dad as a gift when daddy didn’t know what else to give his little boy for his birthday. He already had everything under the sun so now he’s running our once wonderful place into the ground. Before that we had the usual board on the wall on each floor with the donuts to turn each morning to let them know we were okay. Now this makes Jack the 5th or 6th person found days after they passed away because nobody cares any more. I am fairly certain there is a law that covers this, making it illegal to take those boards out — along with the cords to pull if we fall in the bathroom or other area of the apartment, so those of us who don’t have anyone calling every day are now destined to stay around for a few days after our demise, until the odor escapes into the hall and someone is passing by with a good sense of smell. Kinda gross to think about, but that’s our reality in this place. I tried at one time to report them, especially during the renovation when we had no working elevators, no hard hats to wear while moving thru the construction area that covered the entire main floor. Even took photos that I sent in but each agency I contacted told me it wasn’t their problem, call some other place. The ongoing joke was that this method was easier for them than lining us up against a wall and shooting us to get rid of the drain on the Social Security system, thereby giving our senators and representatives more base money for their after midnight salary increases. (In case you ever run out of ideas for your blog, just do some research on THAT proposal!)

                      Ah, well, no one ever leaves this world alive, and I think today I’m just gonna do a little post about the Blue Angels upcoming air show. Hugs! 🧡❤💙💜☮


  6. Can’t you just hear it?

    “Well … well … yeah, but …
    Well … you see … it’s because …
    Well … she didn’t …
    But it doesn’t matter. Let me tell you what really matters … I’m like really smart! And a real stable genius. You won’t find anyone smarter than me … ever!

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      • Well, it is not the first time that a POTUS was an ignorant doofus. I seem to remember pork pies coming from H. Clinton, too. Benghazi? What was that? GW Bush, WMD? Where? No if being intelligent was a prerequisite? Most politicians would be out of a job. Cheers Jamie

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        • All have made mistakes, but just to clarify … Benghazi was NOT Clinton’s fault, and she was cleared of any wrongdoing in that. But a mistake is one thing … blatant stupidity and ongoing, consistent bad decisions is quite another. Cheers!


          • Oh right … she was cleared ? …. r-i-g-h-t-t! They made sure of that. Politicians only have self aggrandizement as their mantra and serving the public is seen as a bunch of civic duties, they profit from. Bad decisions … from whose point of view? Not mine; but today’s politician, poor decisions that seems to be fait accompli. Apart from Valddy maybe? Cheers Jamie

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    • Large animals need to be frequently fed. He has a super-large ego that requires almost constant feeding and stroking, else he goes into meltdown mode. Since not too many others are willing to feed it, he must do it himself.


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  7. Omg…..This is without a doubt, the reality show presidency……surreal beyond belief. If I died and came back I would not believe this man was actually elected…no way…not in America!

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  8. Jill, the endless call of repetition is not inconsistent with how he speaks with reporters. He tends to repeat themes over and over. Woodward has gravitas, so his book should and will be considered more seriously. Given the mercurial nature of the man at the top, I am not surprised at aides hiding things from him. To be frank, Trump reminds me of the Queen of Hearts in “Alice in Wonderland.” Keith

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    • Quite so … as I have often said, the man cannot seem to string a single coherent sentence together, and when he does, he’s so surprised that he repeats it at least twice! So far, the excerpts I have read do not surprise me, but as you say, Woodward has a credibility that Michael Wolff didn’t have, so this book will be taken more seriously. I wonder if Trump has melted down yet? Oh … and speaking of “Alice in Wonderland” … our minds must be working together … stay tuned for tomorrow’s song at 11:00 a.m. 😀

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  9. From:

    Woodward depicts Trump’s anger and paranoia about the Russia inquiry as unrelenting, at times paralyzing the West Wing for days. Learning of the appointment of Mueller in May 2017, Trump groused, “Everybody’s trying to get me” — part of a venting period that shellshocked aides compared to Richard Nixon’s final days as president.


    A central theme of the book is the stealthy machinations used by those in Trump’s inner sanctum to try to control his impulses and prevent disasters, both for the president personally and for the nation he was elected to lead.

    Woodward describes “an administrative coup d’etat” and a “nervous breakdown” of the executive branch, with senior aides conspiring to pluck official papers from the president’s desk so he couldn’t see or sign them.


    White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly frequently lost his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was “unhinged,” Woodward writes. In one small group meeting, Kelly said of Trump: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”


    After Syrian leader Bashar Assad launched a chemical attack on civilians in April 2017, Trump called Mattis and said he wanted to assassinate the dictator. “Let’s … kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the … lot of them,” Trump said using an expletive, according to Woodward.

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    • When I wrote this post this morning, I had no idea that the Woodward book which isn’t even on the shelves until next week, would be the subject of every headline in every media outlet! I pre-ordered the book today! I wonder if Trump has threatened yet to burn down all the bookstores next Tuesday?

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      • I wouldn’t be surprised. He has already gone after Amazon. You know, all news is fake unless it comes from him or from the National Enquirer. The man is nuts. He should be institutionalized in a mental health facility or sent to prison. I’m afraid this insanity will get much worse before it gets better, and if it gets bad enough our nation might never recover.

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        • I hear he’s calling on Congress for tougher libel laws … again. 🙄 I wonder if he realizes that libel laws such as he wants would put his buddies over at Fox and Breitbart out of business? I’m with you on that … I think it will definitely get worse before it gets better. Sigh.

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