An old friend sent me a text message yesterday:
Got a song that you may want to delve in. “You’re So Vain” by Carly Simon. A good investigating song. Try and figure out who the three men are that it’s about.
Well, me being me … half deaf and never paying much attention to music trivia until recently … I had no idea that the song was actually ‘about’ anybody, but his challenge piqued my curiosity.
The song, written by Carly Simon herself in 1971, was released the following year, and apparently each of the three verses is about a different ‘vain’ man. In 2015, she admitted that one of the men was Warren Beatty, but other than that she has only given clues, such as that one of the men’s name contains ‘A’, ‘E’, and ‘R’. She has also said it is not about Mick Jagger, who contributed uncredited backing vocals to the song, or her ex-husband James Taylor. Wait … what??? I never knew that James Taylor was married to Carly Simon! And here I thought James Taylor was saving himself for me! Where have I been all my life?
In 2015, Simon published her memoir titled “Boys in the Trees”, but she gave away no answers to the puzzle there, either, and the book is largely about her often tumultuous relationship with Taylor.
In short, I don’t know the answer. Howard Stern does, for she reportedly told him, but swore him to secrecy. But here are some of the possibilities:
- Sean Connery
- Marvin Gaye
- Terrence Malick (who???)
- Bob Rafelson (again, who???)
- Jack Nicholson
- Kris Kristofferson
- Cat Stevens
It is said that during each of the verses, you can hear a whisper of the name that verse is about. Now, since I do well to even hear the words that are sung, I’ll leave it up to you guys to listen for the whisper. And thank you, J.R., for issuing the challenge … it was fun!
You’re So Vain
Carly Simon
You walked into the party
Like you were walking on a yacht
Your hat strategically dipped below one eye
Your scarf, it was apricot
You had one eye on the mirror
And watched yourself gavotte
And all the girls dreamed that they’d be your partner
They’d be your partner, and
You’re so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You’re so vain,
I’ll bet you think this song is about you
Don’t you?
Don’t you?
Oh, you had me several years ago
When I was still naive
Well, you said that we made such a pretty pair
And that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved
And one of them was me
I had some dreams, they were clouds in my coffee
Clouds in my coffee, and
You’re so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You’re so vain, you’re so vain
I’ll bet you think this song is about you
Don’t you?
Don’t you?
Well I hear you went to Saratoga
And your horse, naturally, won
Then you flew your Learjet up to Nova Scotia
To see the total eclipse of the sun
Well, you’re where you should be all the time
And when you’re not, you’re with some underworld spy
Or the wife of a close friend,
Wife of a close friend, and
You’re so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You’re so vain, you’re so vain
I’ll bet you think this song is about you
Don’t you?
Don’t you?
Songwriters: Carly E. Simon
You’re So Vain lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
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Love this one!!!!! GREAT SONG!!!!!! Another one….. you can listen to over and over!!!! Great post! 💙
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You are just SO hard to please! 🤣 Glad you liked it, my friend! ❤
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Great song, great insight into her relationships.
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It is, indeed. And yeah … you’d think she would have learned, eh?
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Great song! It was years later that I learned she was as much a gifted song writer as a singer.
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I didn’t know it either … but then what I don’t know about music and artists could fill volumes! 😉 Glad you enjoyed the song!
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Me, too! 🙂
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I recently learned about the Willis Test, which is like a Bechdel Test for music. I also learned Cat Stevens is the prototype of a failure of it.
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I’m not familiar with either … I shall have to look into it.
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Jill, this is one of the classic put down songs. The chorus is priceless. The only one that rivals it is Bob Dylan’s song who laments “You’ve got a lot of nerve.” I did not know Mick Jaggar sang chorus.
Keith
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I don’t think I’m familiar with that one of Dylan’s. No, I didn’t know about Jagger in the chorus either until my friend Jerry told me, then I researched it.
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The song is called “Positively 4th Street.” Here is the final lyric which is classic.
I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You’d know what a drag it is to see you
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WHOA … that last line says it all! I’ll have to listen to that one. Thanks!
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Now that refrain makes sense to me at last 😁🙋♀️🐝, thanks for the info…
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My pleasure! 🙋♀️
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We always wondered about who it was, and Warren Beatty had been mentioned way back when, and then I guess we forgot because it was donkeys’ years ago. I do like the sinister Marilyn Manson version featuring Depp on guitar–
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I did not know Marilyn Manson had done this song. Hmmmm … I learn something new every day!
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Here I always thought it was about Mick Jagger! LOL! Interesting story. Maybe its about Trump 🙂
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I should rephrase that, the song wouldn’t be about Trump, but Trump might think its about him! LOL!
If you want to have a smile about Trump, you can read Colin’s post about the Law of Holes. Its not a political post but a fun post to help your mind forget about Trump, and the last 2 laws do work for Trump. 🙂
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Oh, no doubt he would THINK it was about him! He cannot seem to fathom that any woman wouldn’t fall all over herself for him. Blech. 🤢 I will check out Colin’s post … thanks!
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You are so right! Ugh!
Enjoy the post, you are welcome! 🙂
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Hah! Don’t let Carly here you say that! 😉
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I’m so vain, of course I know this song is about me
I’m so vain, I know this goddamn song is about me
Even though I know you never met me
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I wondered if it might have been about you! 😉
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The first time I heard the song I changed the chorus. I had rewritten the whole song at one point, but that was while I still had a memory. Now it’s just the chorus. But yes, it was about me. Carly just didn’t know it.
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😊 You make me laugh!
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That’s your lot in life Lalania…
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It’s a good song, personally I always felt whoever ‘he’ was needed a good kick in the pants and all the mirrors removed from his house (super-jerk!).
I did have her album ‘Anticipation’, excellent.
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Yeah, I’ve known a few who deserved that treatment too, but then, I’ve known some women who weren’t any better. Arrogance or vanity isn’t gender-specific. Does make for a good song, though!
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That it does!
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Great song. And I have no idea who the guy was. 💖
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Glad you liked it! I don’t know either, nor really care, but it was fun to look into it.
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Great song and very interesting back story if I say so myself. 👍👍😄
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I’m so glad you liked it! Thanks for the idea … it was fun! 😊
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It was the total eclipse of 1970 that was visible from the Us and Canada, and we know that Carly Simon outed Warren in 2010 so the third stanza is him. Now to the other two, making the leap she is not talkin about him in all three.
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