Has our Hong Kong moment arrived?

Our friend Jeff over at On the Fence Voters has once again given us some food for thought. I’ll leave him to tell you of his thoughts tonight … and I’ll be interested to hear your ideas on it. Many thanks, Jeff!!!

On The Fence Voters

When I went to bed last night, I had a sickening feeling in my stomach. I’d just watched the Rachel Maddow show where she broke the news that the Justice Department is now opening a criminal investigation—into the investigators of the Russian probe.

I suppose I should have seen it coming. The so-called Attorney General, William Barr, has been flying around the world-shaking down allies, trying to get dirt on anyone he can. This action is most definitely at the behest of the President of the United States. Barr has shown his loyalty and willingness to do the President’s bidding at every turn; why should this time be any different?

If this isn’t another clear case of an abuse of power, what is, folks? On the heels of devastating testimony from career public servants, do we think this announcement is nothing but a coincidence? The Presidents cornered like a rat…

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22 thoughts on “Has our Hong Kong moment arrived?

  1. I think out 2 countries are in the same place. A badly divided opposition facing a horrendous leader causing so much damage. But that leader has a backing which is not divided. Then we have too many in the middle who close their eyes and vote based on fears. It’s a recipe for disaster.

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    • You are spot on in your assessment. It amazes me that they continue to have such dedicated backing, despite their many faux pas, but what annoys me the most is those who, as you say, close their eyes and think it will all work itself out. In this country, voter apathy is a huge problem. If every eligible voter had voted in 2016, I firmly believe we would be talking about President Hillary Clinton today. Sigh.


  2. I also saw where some Wall Street types that are democrats, will either not vote or vote for trump, if Warren is the candidate. Because she will get into their tidy little keep the rich, rich for themselves program and they don’t want that.

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  3. I think the Hong Kong uprising is largely led by Student activists. It is really a different political situation and one in which people are fighting against oppressive regimes. The situation for young people in America is so different. They are unlikely to rise up en masse, nor to they seem to have any ‘agenda’ other than the environmental issues that are plaguing the whole of humanity. While corruption is definitely taking place over a number of political issues, the young people just find it ‘boring’ to listen to. It doesn’t affect them personally (they think) so no, I don’t think there will be any Hong Kong moments to see. Actually, its my perception that Americans in general, seem to think that their lives are the best in the world, so why do they need to do anything to change that? Sadly, I do not think Americans have the best lives in the world. They do not look at themselves critically, nor do they see the big cracks in their way of life. Until that moment of clarity is brought into sharp focus by a devastating ‘event,’ I don’t think voter turnout is likely to increase. 😐

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    • I was very encouraged by the Women’s March on Washington in 2017, and fully support the climate marches that are largely inspired by our youth, but other than those, I’m not aware of any. Sigh. Most people seem to be waiting for somebody else to ‘fix’ things. Sigh.

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  4. Jeff, good post. A couple of questions to ponder:
    – why is the US president directing rhe US Attorney General and why is he aware of findings?
    – why is it so hard for ardent Trump fans to believe hard-working, diligent ambassadors who have served both Republican and Democrat presidents?
    – why are we not celebrating the political courage of these ambassadors who are testifying while knowing the president is very vindictive?
    – why are not more questions being asked of William Barr who white-washed a more damning Mueller report?
    – why did the GOP stormtroopers brag that they had not paid attention to what these heroes were testifying and had not read the Mueller report?
    – why are legislators OK with a morally corrupt and likely criminally corrupt president?
    – why do two Republican lawyer groups say the impeachment inquiry is justified?
    – why do Trump followers think the ten plus year economic growth in the US started January, 2017? Could it be they believed his lie how horrible things were and unemployment was as high as 42%? It is amazing how it dropped to beneath 5% after the inauguration.

    Mind you, I am glad ecomomic growth continued, but what concerns me is we borrowed from our future to make a pretty good economy a little better for a little while. Instead of paying down debt in good years, our deficit climbed 26% to $984 billion for the fiscal year ending 9/30/2019. We are over $22 trillion in debt today and it will be near $34 trillion in eight years sams change.

    Trump said the economy will suffer if he is nor reelected. The economy has been softening for more than a year and will continue regardless of whether Trump is reelected. Keith

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    • All excellent questions/points, my friend, though the answers are beyond my comprehension. Ignorance, self-interest, greed, apathy, closed minds? I suspect that all play a role. I know only that if we do not get rid of this person in the White House soon, we are going to pay a high price. As it is, we likely will even if he leaves tomorrow, for just look at our national debt … look at the state of the nation … look at our society, a tinderbox just waiting for somebody to strike the match.

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  5. Commented on the original, citing a BBC segment a couple nights ago which suggested Pennsylvanian former Democrats who voted Trump in 2016 think he’s doing fine by them and are likely to stick with him in 2020. Depressing, but brings a different perspective on your situation from the one I’m getting from this and other blogs I follow.

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    • The sad but true reality seems to be that far too many think that as long as they have jobs, can pay their bills and are doing okay, the political situation doesn’t affect them. It does not bode well for next year, which is partly why I keep trying to open their eyes, make them think beyond their own four walls. Sigh.

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  6. Going Hong Kong was a show of strength, but it was also mob violence. I don’t think you need to go that far. But you can still bring your nation to its knees by interrupting the flow of the economy. Just march in the streets, and peacefully sit down in key intersections so that business cannot run smoothly. Not just one key intersection, but hundreds of them in every city in the contigual United Stares. If businesses cannot run smoothly, they will take their case to the politicians. If the politicians react knee-jerk style, as usually they do, they will start the violence against their own citizens, and that cannot be abided. But if the politicians realize the seriousness of the situation, they will try to create peaceful changes. And that is the goal of marching, to change the world with peaceful protest.
    The best time is past. But now is still that best time, because allowed free-rein, or free-reign, Trump will only get stronger.

    I have been advocating peaceful protests for over two years now. Maybe things would never have got to where they are today if America had listened back then, but that is moot. If you don’t act soon, think of where you might be in another two years. Your Congress is currently inquiring as to whether Trump can be impeached. They need to know they have the backing of the people. Show them your power, and your support.
    Or lose them, and lose the next election too. The choice is yours!

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  7. Unfortunately the above comment is oh too true. Right now I’m just hoping enough people will go to the polls and vote this year. I’m gonna try to get an email off to you about a diatribe I was subjected to last week at our airport. It would have been funny if it hadn’t been so otherworldly.
    I really would be happy at this point just to see Twitchy Mitchy defeated. He’s wealthy enough at our expense to fade into the wallpaper now.

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    • I fully agree … the biggest hurdle is convincing people how important their vote is, AND that their vote counts. With gerrymandering and other dirty tricks, many people feel that their vote will not matter. We had … what, 56% turnout or thereabouts in 2016?

      I await your email … I’ve been negligent in that regard … and I’m sorry. Can’t wait to hear about this diatribe!

      Yes, you guys have simply got to get rid of Mitch! He and Lindsey Graham both need to be relegated to the bottom of an ash heap somewhere!

      Hugs, my friend!

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      • I have actually had to go around people outside of our polling place who are bragging about the fact that they have never voted in their lifetime. And all the while criticising the people who have just been elected and complaining about everything that is wrong with government.
        Something is so wrong there.

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