Donald Trump may believe that his warmongering, his assassination of a top Iranian general, his threats to Iran that he will destroy 52 of their cultural icons, and his attempt to start WWIII will cause us to all lose sight of his impeachment and looming trial. It won’t. Impeachment news may have taken a backseat in the press, but it definitely is not going away, as Trump had obviously intended. A few things made their way into the news yesterday regarding impeachment.
So, former National Security Advisor John Bolton says he will be willing to testify before the Senate impeachment trial if allowed to do so. At least 4 republicans and every democrat in the Senate will have to vote in favour of hearing Bolton’s testimony, and I’m not sure there are four republican senators who own a pair, much less remember where they keep them.
However, my question is this … why didn’t Bolton come through and testify during the House impeachment hearings? His lawyer says he knew about “many relevant meetings and conversations” connected to the Ukraine matter that had not been shared with impeachment investigators. It is also said that he was “deeply troubled” by the campaign to get Ukraine to investigate Democrats. So, if all of that was true, and if Mr. Bolton has a conscience and wishes to do the right thing, where was that conscience in November and December?
And then, there was Lindsey Graham. Good ol’ Lindsey who cannot remember from one day to the next who his friends are, and who one day wants to censure Trump, and the next day thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Lindsey Graham who stabbed his “best friend” John McCain in the back. Now Lindsey has decided it is up to him to decide to change the Senate rules regarding Trump’s trial and (hopefully) conviction.
Nancy Pelosi, as you know, has not yet sent the articles of impeachment to the Senate, pending some indication from the Senate that they are prepared to hold some semblance of a fair and impartial trial. To date, both Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham have blatantly stated that they had no intention of being fair, that the trial would simply be a formality to be gotten through, with Trump’s acquittal the pre-determined outcome. This is not acceptable, and Ms. Pelosi is holding back sending the articles, hoping for some reassurance that the Senate will do their proper job.
That is what has Lindsey and a number of other senators up in arms. Why do they care? Because, the closer it gets to November 3rd, election day, the less they want the publicity of an ongoing impeachment trial to be fresh on the minds of the voters. The republican senators want the trial to be speedy and low-key, with few or no witnesses called, and to be over and done as quickly and early as possible. Not, mind you, because it is in the best interest of We the People, but only because it is in their best interests for re-election. People have short attention spans, especially in the current climate with war looking more and more likely, and if the trial were held in late January, by November a large percentage of people would have forgotten all about it.
What Lindsey is proposing is a change in the Senate rules …
“What I would do, if she continues to refuse to send the articles as required by the Constitution, I would work with Senator McConnell to change the rules of the Senate so we could start the trial without her, if necessary.
Well, we’re not going to let Nancy Pelosi use the rules of the Senate to her advantage. This is dangerous to the presidency as an institution. They impeached the president, but the speaker of the House is holding the articles back, trying to extort from the majority leader of the Senate a trial to her liking. They’re trying to hold these articles over the head of the president.
If we don’t get the articles this week, then we need to take matters in our own hands and change the rules, deem them to be delivered to the Senate so we can start the trial, invite the House over to participate if they would like. If they don’t come, dismiss the case and get on with governing the country.”
Get on with governing the country, Lindsey??? WTF are you talking about, for you and your ignoble buddies there in the Senate have refused to pass legislation sent over by the House of Representatives for over a bloody year now! You haven’t done a thing but sit on your fat ass and run your ignorant mouth. Govern the country, my foot!
The way I see it, the impeachment trial has now taken on an even greater importance, for in the last 5 days, Trump has proven that he is, indeed, the madman I’ve been calling him. This nation absolutely cannot handle another five years of his presidency, and frankly I’m not sure we can survive another year and come out intact. It is on the Senate to make sure his trial is by the book, that witnesses are called by both parties, that the evidence is seriously considered, and that he is convicted and removed from office. Anything less than that is unacceptable and will cost lives … many lives.
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@RubinReport: This sham is becoming too obvious. She got her impeachment in the House and now won’t send it to the Senate bc it will die there. Instead she holds the country hostage and pretends she’s the good guy for it.
The Left is making more Trump supporters than Trump could himself…
@bennyjohnson: Q: “Are you holding the articles indefinitely?”
A: Pelosi “I’ll send them over when I’m ready.”
This is a disgrace. An authoritarian, third-world power grab tactic. These people hate the Constitution. They hate your vote. Pelosi thinks she rules this country.
Prove otherwise. https://t.co/BsPA5D4fPP
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But this is wrong.
The real sham is in the senate plans to not have a full trial. Pelosi expected all along that Trump would likely be acquitted in the senate. But McConnell wants to have only a sham trial with a quick vote to acquit and no honest presentation and examination of evidence.
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Exactly so! Thank you, Neil.
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It’s interesting that there seems to be a bit of a crack in the unity of the democrats over this. Diane finestein asked Nancy if impeachment is so urgent, why not send the articles over. You can look that up and I’m sure it won’t be hard to find, though she later backtracked on this. It doesn’t give me confidence in our politicians when they can’t even say what they mean or mean what they say and have to always dig themselves out of holes they create for themselves.
No wonder I don’t trust any of these psychopaths.
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There will never be complete agreement within any party … differences of opinion are human nature. However, the main thing, the glue that holds the Democratic Party together, is the concept that government should work for the people, not the other way around. And that people who have not had the same opportunities as others, for whatever reasons, should be helped by government. Though I am an independent voter, not registered to either party, I definitely relate more nearly to their ideology, for the republican’s platform is more about corporate wealth and support of those in the upper echelons.
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My response is exactly what Neil said.
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I wonder if the House could call Bolton to testify, and then just have a public testimony from him on TV. That way the American people will hear what he has to say, even if the Senate doesn’t want to hear it.
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Hmmmm … I don’t know, but it’s worth looking into! Thanks for the idea!
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I’ll make no judgement about Bolton’s possible motives, but it seems rather likely that he is fairly certain that the Republican controlled Senate will not subpoena him anyway. That said, it is also dubious at best that he suddenly has developed a conscience or that he suddenly discovered that he does ‘own a pair’! Now then, would this be the same Lindsey Graham who back in May of 2016 said that he “cannot in good conscience support Trump” and “I don’t believe he is a reliable Republican conservative nor has he displayed the judgement and temperament to serve as commander in chief.” and “It’s hard to believe that in a nation of more than 300 million Americans, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will be our choices for President.” If so, Lindsey has come a long way since then. Apparently he lost ‘a pair’ and can comfortably wade in the swamp with McConnell and Trump! Thank-you!
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Good point that Bolton may have already been assured by McConnell that he would not be subpoenaed. Yes, this is the same Lindsey Graham, and it is also the same Lindsey Graham who said in 1998, that President Richard Nixon made himself subject to impeachment the day he failed to answer a congressional subpoena. And it is the same Lindsey Graham who, in 1999, during impeachment proceedings against President Bill Clinton, Graham asserted that an impeachable offense “doesn’t even have to be a crime”. Apparently Lindsey Graham cannot keep up with his own beliefs. Integrity? I think not. Cojones? If he has any, he keeps them in a safe deposit box in the bank, where they have grown mold. Bah, humbug!
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I do not trust Bolton Jill. I too, am amazed he’s had an epiphany all of a sudden. Why? That’s the big question here. Some are saying that Schiff should subpoena him right now. I think that’s a good suggestion. I’d love to hear how he would explain not showing up for that one. I just think we all need to be careful thinking this guy is going to put a dagger into Trump’s presidency. Never forget, he’s one of the original neocons. I don’t trust any of those people.
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Bolton going to testify?
He is afraid someone will find a way to pack him off the The Gulf?
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I’m not sure what his angle is. At first, I thought it a good thing, given that he was fired by Trump, so no love lost there, and he was no doubt privvy to much of what went on between Trump and the Ukraine. But then, some felt he might have an ulterior motive, and I must admit it is a possibility. But now, Mitch McConnell seems determined not to let him testify, so I wonder if he does have some compelling knowledge that might serve to sway some senators to vote against Trump. I just don’t know. Sigh.
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Let them fight amongst themselves, at least one is bound to let slip ‘Well I told ‘him’ it was a lousy idea to kill Soleimani’.
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Heh heh … true dat. I hear that many in the Pentagon told him it was a bad … really bad … idea, but did he listen? I wish the whole lot of ’em would leave and get some new blood in our government, some who actually care about the well-being of this planet and the lifeforms on it. Are there such people, I wonder?
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Some do try…remember the Obama initiatives on climate change……of course he was one of ‘those people’.
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Ah yes … the REAL president! Seems like it’s been at least a decade since he was in office and we went to sleep at night feeling safe & secure. Sigh.
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And we thought this would be a new dawn.
Thing is Ignorance, Fear and Bigotry never sleep
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Apparently not. Sigh. I thought we had killed that beast, but it raises its ugly head time and time again. What the Sam Hell is wrong with people, Roger?
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People Jill, People.
Ever since the days that Big Ug and Big Blug convinced their followers (with the aid of a big piece of wood) that they should have ALL of da water in dat big pond ‘cuz the other lot ‘aren’t us’ it’s been like that.
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Sigh. Yes, I know. Up until recently, though, I had hopes we could move past all that and stop with the ‘them vs us’ mentality. Obviously not.
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‘Fraid not, needs another few thousand years…if we last that long
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In truth, Roger, I don’t think we will last that long. I’m thinking that if we don’t all start taking climate change much more seriously, and that means our governments as well, the end of the century will be a stretch. Beyond that, all bets are off. If we cannot learn to live together in peace, perhaps that’s what we deserve. Bleak? Yeah, I am these days. Sigh.
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One good thing about following sciences is they give you perspective.
If we screw-up during this time on the planet then it indicates we were an evolutionary dead-end. Us gone, into the fossil record, just a smear in fact because we weren’t around that long.
Sounds bleak? Not to me, it just comes across that all those egos, pumped up vanities and blowhard words….never get recorded on the fossil record. Gone..poof….Folk like Trump would loathe the thought, if they ever thought…
Cosmic justice eh? 😉
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My thoughts exactly! A failed experiment. The only thing that really makes me sad is that humans seem to be determined to destroy not only their own species, but all other life forms on earth.
But you’re right, it isn’t bleak, it just proves we’ve far over-rated our own self-worth.
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Being very analytical going back over the various fossil records the species can be as a result of a more successful one.
The difference here is we are supposed to be blessed with a gift to ensure we look after the environment.
(It’s all in Genesis Evangelic folks. Don’t blame environmentalists, take it up with God)
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not related to the impeachment but did you guys see this?
What the hell is wrong with people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP9s-_wsf2Y &feature=em-uploademail
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You’ve got me there, Scott! Apparently the guy isn’t the brightest bulb in the pack. Posted it on Facebook, for Pete’s Sake??? Sheesh!
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The guy might as well have waved a big banner with ‘Hey! I want to kill the President! Arrest me!’…
Any threats, unless its’ something like ‘I will go pbbht! at the President next time I see him’ will be taken seriously.
And the guy was hired as a ‘security guard’?….(back to the 1960s….Like..far-out man!)
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He wasn’t, apparently, too bright, else he was smoking some of the really good stuff! The thing is, though, that anybody who truly wishes to assassinate Trump (or anyone, for that matter), is going to be smart enough to keep a very low profile and not let anyone, not even his dog, know of his plans.
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You’d think.
And someone decided to hire him as a security guard…. Now there’s a worrying thought, who decided he would make a great security guard?
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I think that security guards aren’t typically checked out too carefully. Remember George Zimmerman who killed the unarmed black teen, Trayvon Martin, a few years ago? He was a security guard. Most of them, it seems, are wanna-be cops who couldn’t pass the smell test to become law enforcement, so they do the next best thing … be a security guard where they get to carry a gun and throw their weight (and most of them have plenty of that) around.
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Is the term Rent-A -Cop still in use?
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Hmmmm … I haven’t heard it in a while, but it was when I retired, for we used to tease our very elderly (had to be at least 80) night security guard about being a rent-a-cop. He was a gem of a guy and we all had great fun with him.
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Probably did a better job than most of them.
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I always thought that if somebody came to rob the place (it was a publishing company … what’s to steal?) that he would offer them a cuppa coffee and sit them down and show them pictures of his grandkids! 😉
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Good approach. They’d probably get to talking with him, eventually forget why they came there and leave with a handshake and saying to each ‘What a nice old guy’ 😃
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Quite possibly! Perhaps it is old guys like him that are the answer to the world’s problems today … if only we would sit and listen to them.
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I’m listening 👴
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isn’t it interesting that 6 out of the 7 democrats that Nancy appointed wanted to impeach trump long before the Ukraine incident? They wanted to impeach him over tweets and the like so my question is, how can these people be expected to be fair-minded when they’ve wanted to impeach the president all along.
why has no one asked that question?
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I’m not sure where you are getting your information, but I haven’t heard anything that makes me think they won’t do their job. See, Scott, the thing is that they are not committed to being impartial … they are the prosecution! A prosecutor’s job is to make the case against the alleged perpetrator. Just as Trump’s own team of lawyers are not in any way expected to be impartial, but it is their job to defend their client, even if they don’t truly believe he is innocent. BUT … if you want to be disturbed, be disturbed by the fact that members of the jury … the JURY … the ones who ARE supposed to be fair and impartial, keeping an open mind … are saying that they just want to hurry and get the trial over with and acquit Trump. They have already said they are going to acquit him before they have seen the evidence … oh, which reminds me … many of the members of the jury are saying they want to save time and trouble by NOT seeing evidence and NOT allowing witness testimony. Now there is the real disturbing thing. Whew … sorry, but it is so against the Constitution, so against what is right and just. I am furious over McConnell, Graham, and their little band of merry assholes. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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yeah, I used to have respect for Graham, never liked McConnel who has been in congress since its inception.
You raise a good point from a prosecutorial perspective so I appreciate that.
That’s one of the many things I enjoy about your blog, people bring different perspectives and that’s good since no one person can see all sides.
Have a good weekend my friend.
hugs.
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You too, Scott! And … thank you! Hugs!
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And to think you, like me, spent your life being a bean-counter when you might have been a great scientist and I might have been a great politician! Sigh.
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Hey Jil..we an’t done yet!
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Heck no we’re not!!! Not ’til we stop breathing!
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And that’s only a pause!
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🐺 Arrrrrrooooooooooooooooo
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Jill, my guess is Bolton wants to use the platform to reinforce the aggression toward Iran. But, I do believe he wants to clear his name by indicting Giuilani moreso than the president. The cross examination would be interesting, especially if he is not forthcoming or contradicts other testimony,
Keith
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I hadn’t even thought he might have an ulterior motive … just figured he would know more about it all than most anybody, and since Trump fired him, he really had nothing to lose. But, several have mentioned we should question what it is he has to say, and why now?
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I was with you up to the last sentence – do we not still have to assume innocence until guilt is proven?
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not when there was an admission of guilt, ON NATIONAL TELEVISION no less, from the POTUS. We’d be fools to do so, don;’t you think?
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You’re right … I shouldn’t have said that, for I wasn’t being fair and impartial either, was I? Sigh. Thanks for the reminder.
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Oh, Jill, about Bolton, we need to know first what he wants to testify to. Just because Trump fired him does not guarantee his testimony will be Anti-Trump.
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Yes, I failed to consider that he might be planning to somehow turn the tables, though I rather doubt it, since Trump fired him.
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It makes all non-conservatives everywhere crazy, NTP, but it’s obvious conservatives don’t care about facts or reason or humanity, all they want is power and to keep power. Just look at all the conservtive premiers we have in Canada, a bunch of little Trumps. They lie, cheat and steal for power. I’m sick of this whole fucked-up world. Change is a necessity!
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Why can’t people connect the dots? It’s SO OBVIOUS! Argh. America makes this Canadian CRAZY.
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Believe me, America makes this American crazy, too!!! I would renounce my citizenship if I had somewhere else to go! Especially after the past week of idiocy by the Oaf in the Oval Office!
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