I stumbled upon this last night, and thought you might find some wisdom and humour from it.
Yesterday, A Canadian CEO blamed Donald Trump for the lives lost by Iran shooting down the Ukrainian airliner.
Iran was responding to the United States killing its top general while he was on his way to the airport in Baghdad. The general was killed after Donald Trump ordered his assassination. The CEO, Michael McCain, chief executive of Canadian food packaging company Maple Leaf Foods, says one of his colleagues lost his wife and 11-year-old son when the airliner was shot down.
Iran has taken responsibility for shooting down the plane a few hours after shooting rockets at bases in Iraq where American troops where stationed. Iran’s attack was a response to Trump’s ordered hit.
McCain, who’s probably going to incur Republican wrath for his last name alone, lashed out on Trump through Twitter, and not just his private account, but his company’s. He said the 57 Canadians killed in this…
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I feel the seem way; Trump is the root cause of this disaster…
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It was a domino effect … and he pushed the first domino over. If only Hillary hadn’t made that comment about ‘deplorables’ … sigh.
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Hello Jill. Sorry I disagree. We need to call out the deplorables and we need our elected leaders to do so also. She did not mischaracterize them, they are deplorable and they are proud of it. I reject the notion we must always appease the worst among us. I sat through a class in my twenties that taught people rise or fall to the standards of the people they chose to be around. Choose higher standard people and your own standards will improve, or choose to be around people with lower standards and your will drop to their level. I have seen this work. Heck it is working in our country and around the world right in front of us. We need people willing to say VVV is not acceptable and we will call you out one it, now more than ever. I feel the people Hillary were talking about are deplorable and they should be told they are. Hugs
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Well, Scottie, while I understand what you are saying, I do have to respectfully disagree, on two levels. First, the name-calling was divisive and unprofessional, and I suspect Hillary regretted the words shortly after saying them. Name-calling just doesn’t accomplish anything. Now, if it’s you or I, we can do it and maybe it helps us get out some of our angst. But we aren’t running for president, we aren’t public personas who are held to a higher standard of accountability. The second thing is that between that and Jim Comey’s ‘October Surprise’, it probably cost her the election. I know of people who, while not fond of Hillary, were planning to vote for her nonetheless, but changed their minds solely on the basis of that comment. Is that right? Maybe not, but the reality is she lowered herself to the level of the scrappers at that point, rather than holding herself to that higher standard. There is a way to make a point without name-calling, as Keith often reminds me. I agree with you that we need people to call out rhetoric and behaviour that is unacceptable, but it can be done without the name-calling. Hugs!
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By assassinating the Iranian general without congressional approval, Trump is now officially a terrorist and war criminal. Typical neocon tactic, do the exact thing you claim your enemy will do, and blame it on them! Unreal.
Now Ms Pelosi has add’l articles of impeachment to submit while the trial heads to the senate. I can only hope both parties set aside their partisanship and do the right thing.
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Not in anyone’s defence, but the plane took off an hour late. Some triggerhappy underling, or some power-drunk general, probably saw it as an big anomaly that was not supposed to be there. No matter what or why, Trmp put the region on nerve ends. We should probably be glad only one civilian plane was blown up. I am only looking at facts, not blame.
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Agreed. I don’t for a minute believe there was an intent to down a passenger jet, and Trump did start the tensions in the region.
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Hello rawgod. Yes I agree. Hannity, the State Propaganda TV host tRump is most enamored with proclaimed that night that planes were on the way to attack Iran. WTF. How would we expect anyone to react knowing that and seeing an unexpected blip on the radar coming into a sensitive military site? This is totally on the US and the State Propaganda TV. Hugs
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I’ve now heard there was some time between the first missile fired at the plane and a second missile. That sounds to me as though it wasn’t a mistake but done deliberately. I haven’t yet heard why that would have happened. —- Suzanne
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Yes, I was reading about that yesterday. There are certainly many unanswered questions, surrounding the downing of that plane.
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Hello Jill and patriciaruthsusan. From my research with very spotty sources I find the first missile totally missed the craft, the second missile exploded in front of the craft which put all the shrapnel into the airplane and caused it to then explode and crash. That is the best scenario I can find on line for what happened. The evidence is the reports that the parts of the outer skin were perforated with lots of holes. I can not find a source that states or shows either missile launched actually hitting the plane, not that the end result would have been different. This could be wrong but it is what I could find. Hugs
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Thanks, Scottie! I hadn’t read that. As you say, the bottom line is it doesn’t much matter. The 176 people are still dead, either way, and Iran has accepted the responsibility. I will always hold Trump accountable, for had he not had General Soleimani assassinated, none of it would have happened. But that, too, is water over the dam. Sigh. Hugs
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It says more or ;less what we;’ve said since it happened except they didn’t mention the Nuclear Agreement being reinstated under Trump’s name rather than President Obama’s. Trump wants successes in his name more than anything else.
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True. There a line of progression that led to it, and I sometimes wish Trump’s parents were alive so they could be sued for creating this evil madman! He is tooting his horn about his trade deal with China now, but from what I’ve read it isn’t such a big deal at all. Sigh.
Cwtch
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He’s still looking for that elusive Nobel Peace prize. So he almost started a war so he could be seen to be stopping it.
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If he ever gets awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, I’m jumping off a cliff!
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He will earn one the day he dies. With him dead, the world has a chance at peace.
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I think if somebody were to get rid of him right now, that person would deserve the Nobel Peace Prize!
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Hello Jill. My understanding is that Hannity on his program that night had mentioned that planes were on their way to Iran to avenge / respond to the Iranian missiles attack. Hard to blame Iran for being worried about a counter attack after the US assassinated their second in command. How would the US react if a country took out Mike Pence on UK territory? Hugs
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Agreed … it was a night of tension, and I believe the plane turned toward a sensitive site. In my humble opinion, I think Trump and his minions have blood on their hands as much as the Iranians. But, of course, since the day he learned to speak, Trump has never accepted responsibility for anything, so I don’t expect he’ll start now. Sigh. Hugs!
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Hello Jill. I had a notification on my phone this morning that the military is now saying 11 US service people died from the Iranian missile attack. I am wondering if that is correct or is it an attempt to justify another strike against Iran or their proxies. It is horrible that we can not trust any statement from this administration on anything even the most important things. Hugs
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I heard last night that 11 or 12 were injured, not killed. According to this morning’s NYT, that seems to be the case: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/17/world/middleeast/iran-strike-americans.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage Either way, though, it is yet further proof that we cannot trust a damn thing our government says.
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Hello Jill. Thank you for the link and information. I have not had the chance to do much news reading this morning. I only have seen the headlines on my phone. Hugs
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World’s going to hell in a handbasket right?
Well, I hope you had a nice end of year with family and friends.
In the end it’s all that matters isn’t it.
Happy 2020.
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I did … enjoyed the holidays (as much as possible, under the circumstances) and I was ready for them to be over by the time they were. I do hope for a happy 2020 … and to you also, my friend!
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Bon week-end Jill. Have you tried turning off the news completely? 😉
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And to you too, Brian! No … I find that it is a compulsion … I can turn it off for a few hours at most, and then I just have to know if there are any new crises brewing. Sigh.
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Well, a few hours is fair enough… 🙂
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