Don’t Label Me!

I would much rather live in a world where everyone has equal rights.  I would rather live in a world where free education … a good education where young people are taught to think … is affordable and available to all.  I would rather live in a world where good health care is available to all at a very small cost to those who cannot afford it, and a higher cost to those who can.  I would rather live in a world where people have been taught since birth to respect everyone and everything … humans, but also the environment, all animals, trees, flowers, grass.  I would rather live in a world where people can disagree without fighting, without screaming and yelling, without threats of violence.  I would rather live in a world where people gladly stop to help a stranger or give up something – time or money or ‘things’ – in order to help another, whether person or animal.  I would rather live in a world where it doesn’t matter if you’re black or white, straight or gay, male or female, Christian or atheist, but where everyone is treated fairly and equally.  I would rather live in a world filled with love, than hate.  I don’t mind if nobody can afford to own a mansion or a private jet, as long as everybody can afford food, shelter, medical care, education, and as long as we are cleaning up our own environmental mess.  I would rather live in a world where people don’t worship money.  I don’t care if I can never afford a brand-new car, or designer jeans, or if I can never take a vacation to Monte Carlo.

Obviously, the world I would rather live in doesn’t exist anywhere on this planet, although a few countries, Finland and Denmark most notably, have come close.

So, because I want all these things, I am told that I am part of the “woke culture” and that this is a very bad thing to be.  I had, of course, heard the term ‘woke’, and in fact it was once used by my own congressman, Warren Davidson.  I thought he meant awake, and I corrected his grammar.  However, I simply thought the term meant being aware of … whatever the topic of conversation at that moment might be.  Apparently, I was quite wrong and am not too terribly bright.

Lately, I notice a number of new terms cropping up … words that have a meaning, but are suddenly assigned a different meaning by … nameless, faceless people … and then that becomes a cultural ‘thing’.  Now, I am too damned old to try to keep up with what is meant by a “Gen X” or a “millennial”.  Those are bad enough, but now we have these terms like ‘social distancing’, ‘woke’, ‘cancel culture’, and more.  C’mon people … say what you mean.  Woke.  Yes, I awoke this morning, or rather I was awakened by the body saying it needed the bathroom.  I woke Miss Goose up because I needed her to help with the house chores.  Don’t try to pin the label ‘woke’ on me and send me scurrying to try to figure out just what the Sam Hell you even mean!

Now, from a day or so of research, trying to learn just what is meant in today’s strange culture by “woke”, the nearest I can conclude is that a ‘woke’ person is one who calls for social justice, who supports Black Lives Matter, who supports Roe v Wade and Obergefell v Hodges, who believes in equality for all and is trying to make the world a better place.  If that is the right definition, than I am proud to say that yes, I have awakened and am an enlightened social justice warrior, or in today’s vernacular, I’m ‘woke’.

So, a reader claims that being ‘woke’ is a terrible thing, much worse, even, than being a trumpeter! Hmmm … something is wrong with this.  Let’s see if we can figure out why it’s better to be a corrupt racist misogynistic psycopathic liar than a person who advocates for equality and social justice.

One explanation I found is that those who are considered to be ‘woke’ are pretentious and cultural elites.  Huh?  Okay, I know what ‘pretentious’ means, and … I can honestly say I’ve never once had cause to be pretentious a day in my life!  And … cultural elites???  Heck, folks, I’m about as elite as … Jethro Bodine from the old Beverly Hillbillies show! I don’t own fancy clothes or drive a fancy car … my van is 20 years old and has 250,000 miles on it, and is only safe to drive no farther than I could walk home. In my lifetime, I’ve been homeless, I’ve been attacked, I’ve had a gun pulled on me, I’ve worked my ass off to get an education and take care of my three children, sometimes working three jobs … ELITE???  Hell no!

So look … don’t bother to consider whether I’m “woke” or not, for it really doesn’t matter.  Consider me a person who cares very much about many things:  the environment, animals, all people, equality for all, government that works for the people, not against them.  I want people to learn to get along, to accept each other as they are, and to value diversity.  I want an end to all forms of bigotry, from racism to homophobia to anti-Semitism to misogyny to Islamophobia.  I want people to care instead of hate.  I want our elected officials to work for us, not be lining their own pockets.  I want an end to guns, the sole purpose of which is murder.  These are the things that are important to me.  Don’t label me.  I am who I am, which is far from perfect, for I am sometimes grumpy, have a fairly low tolerance for willful ignorance and stupidity, and I have a sharp edge.  But what I do, I do with kindness, caring, compassion, empathy, and love.  I am not a label, such as democrat, liberal, snowflake, woke, or any of the other labels people so frequently use.  I am me … just that.  I do my best.

62 thoughts on “Don’t Label Me!

  1. Seeing as how it can mean two different things it strikes me as ‘Woke’ is a pretty damn meaningless word for those who are short on ideas. A bit like ‘boomer’ which translates into ‘ used by a person under 35 with a short attention span and is intolerant of older people’.
    Try and label me and whoever does so will be very unhappy with the reply they get. (Unless I am in a generous mood in which case it will be a terse ‘P— off kiddo. What the f—- do you know?’)

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  2. I’m very curious: what would it take for you to say that this social justice movement has gone too far? What is that line for you?

    I have no intention of arguing anything anyone might say. But I am curious if anyone has even considered a principled answer to this question so that people involved in supporting this movement today in the name of social justice have some good idea of what this line – if any – might be that they will not cross.

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    • That’s a fair and valid question. Personally, I draw the line at inflicting violence … on people, property or animals. I believe in that old adage that “the pen is mightier than the sword”, and I believe we should … should be able to solve our problems without resorting to violence. I would gladly march with a group of BLM protestors, but I would not break shop windows, nor harm another person. That said …

      Just like the pendulum on a clock, it will swing from one end to the other, back and forth many times, before it settles somewhere in the middle. I wish it were not so, I wish everyone could learn to embrace diversity rather than fearing it, but I’m realistic enough to know better. Fear is a powerful motivator, and not likely to be wiped out in a single generation, or even a single century perhaps. However, when we have leaders who are pouring fuel on the fires, who are dividing the people, playing on those fears, we cannot progress. A leader who truly seeks to unify, who values the inclusion of all, could speed up the process, but we don’t have that … not here, and not in many of the western nations like Brazil, Venezuela, and the UK.

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  3. Jill…don’t let these people get to you..the commenter, I mean.
    You care passionately about what is right and good and ethical. We all should. It’s apathy that’s as bad as all the other stuff happening..

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      • Some people like to argue, not for the sake of discussion, but to simply argue. Some like to be an A hole because they get off on it. Some are just annoying jerks…
        If reason doesn’t work on them and it probably won’t, you can always block them. It’s disruptive when someone is simply feeding their ego.

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        • Yeah, I think that’s right … some people like to argue for the sake of argument, and some just like to get a rise out of others, too. I am not typically thin-skinned … heck, I’ve lived life, learned a lot of things the hard way … but this time, for some reason, I began to wonder if I was, in fact, a hypocrite. I decided I’m not, but there are areas where I could improve, too. Thanks so much for your support, Mary. Hugs.

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  4. I’m with you Jill. A lace of equality, a place of kindness.A place for everyone no matter their choice, as long as it hurts no others. A place where the Government is interested in the environment and practices good ecology. The Government not to have sponsership from big business.
    Cwtch

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  5. It seems to me that if many T-shirts and other items of clothing no longer carry labels, as they are uncomfortable to wear…mayhaps it is time to remove labels from people as well. But YOU, dear Jill, are “LABELESS”…a one-of-a-kind, a unique being, a rare treasure and a gift! I’ll only add the timeless wisdom of Fred Rogers that I have read to Benjamin since he was a toddler : “Don’t ever give up on yourself or your dreams. You’re worthwhile, and always will be, no matter what. Just remember to always be the person who you are because that person is special. There is no person in the whole world like you. And I like you just the way you are.” WHAK!!

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    • What a perfect analogy you offer, my friend. And thank you so so very much for your kind and supportive words. I could hear Mr. Rogers saying that, as I read the words on my screen. Thank you, my dear friend. WHAK!!! ❤

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  6. I’ve been “woke” long before this new label. In those days, we called it being a Christian, a follower of Jesus. Words matter. The day that caring about others becomes a crime, we are doomed as a species. Hugs, woke sister 🙂

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    • The term – taken from its original meaning in the 60s, taken in turn from a quoted miner from the 40s, meant being aware from being well informed – today means the opposite of liberal, namely, illiberal. And it’s called that because the current form of policies emerging from across the ‘woke’ spectrum is not just deeply anti-liberal but actually totalitarian. Every theory being used to justify today’s woke movement – from critical race theory to social critical justice – is in essence the dictatorship by the elite ‘woken’ over those who are unable/unwilling to accept this authority…. in the name of justice, in the name of fighting racism and discrimination, in the name of all kinds of virtuous behaviours. From today’s public self-censorship and twitter intolerance to divergent views to the almost complete purge of self-identified right wing conservatives at most universities, from the intolerance of divergent views in business to the intolerance shown to writers and opinion columnists throughout media, the woken are following the same script as the Red Guard, the Young Pioneers, the Nazi Youth. What we see form accused people is the same ‘struggle session’ others living under intolerant totalitarian regimes must perform to then hope for any kind of social redemption.

      In the early 80s, a program was brought forward at several universities to promote ‘Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion’. The problem lies in those first two terms because you cannot have one with the other; you cannot have diversity respected in results while at the same time insisting only equal outcomes are acceptable. Right there is the fundamental problem aligning the goals presumed to be achievable under this new woke culture to promote social justice by intolerant methods of injustice, promote equality of opportunity by implementing group-based quotas, nor achieve a reduction in racism by using race to adjudicate only the results of disparity favorable to the woke. That’s why we see the term reversals all the time, that to protect free speech we must censor, that to promote the freedom of assembly we must deplatform those who are willing to address it, that to eliminate racism we must impose a racial framework for all considerations, that we achieve meaningful diversity by insisting everyone must produce identical results, and so on. All of these methods are not liberal but diametrically opposed to the fundamental values of liberalism. That’s why today’s Woke think highly of themselves while committing their support to an intolerant, bigoted, and highly discriminatory authoritarian movement that seek to stamp out all opposition not with reason and debate by cancellation, by firings, by defunding, by threats to emplyers and educators and local officials. That’s why the movement is also called ‘cancel culture’. It is the poster child for what illiberalism looks like in action by those True Believers who presume support for the movement is a demonstration of their moral character in the same way a True Believer in a religion presumes their intolerance of ‘sin’ elevates them to a higher level of moral purity.

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      • Great job articulating illiberalism. Neo-liberalism is a form of illiberalism, a modified form of liberalism tending to favor free-market capitalism. Our current Democratic Party claims to be for the ppl, mainly by playing identity politics with the “woke” crowd without offering anything substantial like expanded health care, free or lower tuition, a living wage etc. Quite the contrary, neo-liberals like Biden are globalist representing the interest of corporations and the elite donor class who demand favors that are anything but free market capitalism. They want to create a totalitarian state where big gov’t align with big business at the expense of the citizens. Hence TPP, Nafta, USMCA trade deals where all the good paying union jobs get exported to 3rd world countries, maximizing profits, exploiting the foreign worker with slave wages, unregulated pollution etc… all to benefit the wealthiest 1%. Politically there’s not much difference between neocons of old and DNC neo-liberals of today. It’s predatory crony capitalism at it’s worst.

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    • Thanks, Rosaliene! While I am not a Christian, I’ve always just thought people ought to accept others as they are. Judge, if one must, based on actions, not on such things as skin colour. Sigh. Hugs to you, Woke Sister! ❤

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        • Yes, they are, but they are a different strain of Christians than you and most of my friends. They twist the words of the tome they claim is holy to suit their own purposes, and they are bigoted to the nth degree. You and most of my friends on this blog are Christians … I respect that, I think you all live your lives by your faith and are good people. However, I have a problem with the evangelicals who are convinced that this must be a nation based on the Christian religion, that all the rest of us must be forced to conform, for they believe theirs is the one and only right belief. It stifles so much progress, so much dialogue. Sigh.

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  7. Jill, you undoubtedly know who you are. When a person knows who they are, they are then FREE to fully be who they are. Personally. I like snowflakes – they are beautiful. I like liberals – they are caring. In the 1960s I liked flower child – it meant peaceful. Conversely, I have shed the label “Christian” because today it is a far cry from its intended meaning back in the early AD era. Hugs🤗

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    • Yep, I know who I am and I’m comfortable in my own skin. I know I’m not perfect, but I also know that I live with my conscience 24/7 and I get along mostly okay with it. Every time I’ve ever been called a ‘snowflake’, I have responded with “Thank you for the compliment! Snowflakes are beautiful and unique, so that was a very nice thing for you to call me!” I was a flower child in the 60s, complete with long hair (I still have that), flowered bell-bottom jeans (thankfully I do NOT still have those) and love beads. But, at the time I did not understand near as much as I thought I did. Now, I understand more, and am more confused than ever. As for Christianity … sigh … I gave up trying to understand those who would call themselves Christians, yet act from hate, long ago. ‘Nuff said.

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  8. There is a strong element of irony to wish on the one hand not to be labelled – because one is a unique individual (a position that I fully endorse) – while on the other hand advocating for a framework for understanding the world and all the people in it – and forming public policies to address various concerns – by assigning labels to those who are representative members of various identity groups. It is then a small step to create policies for groups and we see exactly this unfolding everywhere today. That’s why this social justice movement is actually an ideology incompatible with treating individuals as the individuals they are in fact.

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  9. Jill, labels are lazy shortcuts, often used as weapons to denigrate someone’s opinion without having to pay attention to it. They are also used by marketers and journalists to make generalizations, which may have partial validity, but also are off base. We often see decades defined by very vocal groups or where the focus might be, but that does not represent a whole society.

    When people look at me they tend to believe I am a died in the wool conservative, so it stuns them when I start talking about climate change and civil rights. It is also a reason some folks have told me things they probably should not, assuming I would be of a like mind. My wife has two friends who vehemently support Trump, but they would be mortified to know what she really thinks about Trump.

    To me, when you have met one Gen Xer, you have met one Gen Xer. The same goes for a Baby Boomer. We are different. Just as astrology tries to tie you down on when you are born, so do these labels. We are influenced by those parental genes and environments in which we were raised and our collective experiences.

    Keith

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    • You are so right, my friend. The use of labels is lazy. I have been guilty of doing it also, at times, such as when referring to Trump supporters and assigning them certain attributes, such as racist, but I try not to. I’m puzzled by the comments of one who seems to consider me to be as bad as the Red Guard and Nazi Youth combined, when she calls me ‘woke’. In my 69 years, I’ve been called many things, but never ‘evil’. By the way, when I look at your profile picture, I don’t think either liberal or conservative, I just see a pair of kind eyes, and think “this is a nice man, a good man.” I do, on occasion, though I try not to, look at a person and think “redneck Trump supporter”. I am trying to stop that! Sigh.

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      • Jill, many thanks. They may be tired eyes, but thanks. We are all guilty of labeling, so we must guard against it. I hate when people use a very heinous label for someone they disagree with. When politicians said Obamacare was Nazism, slavery, and Apartheid (I have seen all three used), my reaction is really? Trying to get people heatlhcare, many who cannot afford, is akin to genocide, enslavement or atrocious segregation and denigration? Really?

        So, my advice is when I see something called a label like that, my reaction is to dig deeper giving the labeled the benefit of the doubt. The labeler wants me to just use their label and ignore the argument. There is a certain president whose labels should be handled in precisely this manner. Keith

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        • Your eyes and mine are both tired, and with good reason. I looked in the mirror yesterday and swear I didn’t recognize myself. I sleep no more than 3-4 hours a night, have no appetite (unless there are cookies … I can always work up an enthusiasm for cookies 😉 ) But, hopefully we are nearing the goal, though I don’t think it will end on election night … I think the nightmare will continue until January 20th next year.

          I try to answer every single comment each day, though sometimes I have close to 200 in a day, but the ones lately by tildeb have confounded me and I’ve found myself unable to respond, since I am unable to figure out her purpose. David and Ellen both tell me the same, that they have not managed to get through an entire comment and have no idea whether she is agreeing with me or hoping to antagonize. But, once she labeled me, I immediately bristled. Which makes me realize how wrong I am when I label others because of their ideology or association. Sigh. ‘Tis a complex world we live in, isn’t it?

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  10. People accused of being ‘woke’ really means people have accepted a framing of the world in a certain way by piggybacking people’s good intentions and well meaning desires and using them to further this ideology. That’s why it is often accused of being just like a cult because the methods of indoctrination are the same. So it’s not the intentions of the person that is being criticized; it is the (misguided) actions to further the ideology rather than actions to improve conditions sought to be changed. As such, the ideology (like a religion) can and should be criticized for its dehumanizing aspects and those who are enabling its expansion into the public domain should be held to account for their belief that their actions produce what they say they are doing (like religious people held to account for the actions they support in the public domain that further their religion rather than solve the problems used to excuse their actions).

    From within the academics who have founded this post-modern school of philosophy, “The notion of “getting woke” (or staying woke) is defined as being acutely aware of racial and social injustice—not just awareness and acknowledgement of isolated incidents, but awareness from a position of understanding systemic and institutional racism. … The notion of getting woke encapsulates the first stage of becoming an accomplice in addressing the system of racism… White accomplices should strive to be woke enough not to call themselves woke and instead strive to embody this state of being by building with people of color. … Be in a perpetual state of learning and be woke enough to know you are never woke enough.”

    From an external academic examination of this school of philosophy, ““woke” means having awakened to having a particular type of “critical consciousness,” as these are understood within Critical Social Justice. To first approximation, being woke means viewing society through various critical lenses, as defined by various critical theories bent in service of an ideology most people currently call “Social Justice.” That is, being woke means having taken on the worldview of Critical Social Justice, which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics and the need to dismantle problematic systems. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes.

    Under “wokeness,” this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others. The terminology derives from the idea of having been awakened (or, “woke up”) to an awareness of the allegedly systemic nature of racism, sexism, and other oppressive power dynamics and the true nature of privilege, domination, and marginalization in society and understanding the role in dominant discourses in producing and maintaining these structural forces. Furthermore, being woke carries the imperative to become a social activist with regard to these issues and problems, again, on the terms set by Critical Social Justice. This—especially for white people—is to include a lifelong commitment to an ongoing process of self-reflection, self-criticism, and (progressive) social activism in the name of Theory and Social Justice (see also, antiracism).”

    (Source)

    Why does this matter?

    Well, for the same reason that shaping public policy by framing issues through the lens of of religious purity is a REALLY BAD IDEA if one is concerned about individual rights and freedoms from religious authoritarianism, so too is there cause for concern that it is a REALLY BAD IDEA to shape public policy through the lens of this school of post modern woke ideology if one is concerned about individual rights and freedoms from political authoritarianism.

    In the same way the good-intention religious person busy advocating and supporting and furthering their particular religious ideology in the name of all kinds of virtue and purity deserves challenge, so too does the good-intention woke person busy advocating and supporting and furthering their particular political ideology in the name of all kinds of virtue and purity deserve the same challenge.

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  11. Hello Jill. I hope you get the world you wish and work for. It sounds like a wonderful place to live. I would like to make a reservation for it as soon as possible. To make that world begin to be we need to get people who fight change out of positions of government, authority, and media. Why are people like Jeff Sessions running for the Senate again? He is 73 years old and hates every modern thing that has been popular since he was in his prime in the 1960’s. He thinks reefer madness is a real documentary based on science. He thinks religion should be forced on everyone. He thinks there is nothing wrong with racism and bigotry because that’s what he endorsed when he grew up with it. These are the people we need to get out of elected office. Hugs

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    • We both know, my friend, that the world I wish for is a pipe dream, but still … we can improve on the one we have right now, yes? As re Jeff Sessions, I have no idea why he’s running again, unless it’s to prove he can. After being fired by Trump, perhaps his ego needed a salve. I fully agree with you about him … my biggest reason is his racist views. I’m hoping, though it’s a long shot, that Doug Jones can hold on to that seat. Sigh. Hugs!

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      • Hello Jill. As you mentioned in your grand post the world you seek is achievable in our reality, it only takes us working for and demanding it. It is getting closer every day. Please don’t give up hope, I just posted two Robert Reich videos clearly showing the progression of the take over by the wealthy and how we can over come it. It is like the 1890’s repeating all over again. He lays it out step by step. Which makes me even more angry at the Republicans, there is no way any of them can claim they did not know. Hugs

        OT. Drop me a note to let me know how you and the family are doing. I have been so hit and miss on being able to keep in touch I worry. Hugs

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        • I don’t know for sure if it is achievable, Scottie, but what I do know is that if we stop trying, then we’ve lost. If we no longer push for equality, truth, justice, but simply walk away shrugging our shoulders, then we will never know how much we might have accomplished, how close we might have come. I’ll check out your Reich videos tomorrow … er, later today! I’m so far behind that I feel like a dog chasing its tail!

          I will email you this evening … but we are mostly okay. Love you, my friend. Hugs!

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          • Hello Jill. Glad your family is well. The videos will keep until you have time, no rush. I was just impressed with the way Reich can explain the situation of today and plot the effort by the greedy to return the US to the days of the robber barons. Hugs

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            • Robert Reich never fails to impress me … he knows of what he speaks, understands much more than most, and has a way of expressing himself that makes the point without histrionics. And how are you and Ron doing, my friend? Hugs.

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              • Hello Jill. We are well. Readjusting. Got our Medicare part D done on July 4th. Ron was lucky, he is just turning 65 so he had to file for Medicare anyway. We got that done right away and he got his part A and B card a week ago. Ron left for New Hampshire on Monday and just arrived. It was a sudden shock, but as I said we are lucky, we have savings and own our home, his co-workers are in much harder place. Some have young children and others are in nursing school that the funding is suddenly cut off. It was a mean unnecessary action that is now hurting the hospital as their case levels are soaring again. They thought they could do it now as the first surge was over. Now they are in this one with a 1/3 of the ICU staff gone. I lost all my allergy support, no shots for now nor allergy medications. But we are just waiting for word that our part D is accepted. We have the forms for accepted credited medication insurance so we shouldn’t have a penalty. But we are in good shape. Thanks. It has been hard the sudden shock and upturning the daily routine but it also has been great as Ron is no longer caring for ICU patients with very infectious illnesses. Ron is no longer working nights, and sleeping better. He is happier. And with him in New Hampshire I can get more online time and blogging done! 😀😄😋👏Hugs

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  12. Hi, me. I’m me too, and even #MeToo, if guys are allowed to be members. A lot of times when I read the word “woke,” I can hear some pretentiousness in it, especially if the one who is saying someone is “woke” is the one doing the labelling. On top of that, as you intuit above, it is bad English.
    I’m just wondering what got you into the Don’t Label Me game, but there it is right in front of me, someone called you a “woke,” and you would rather be a “sleep”–as in asleep in your bed.
    But, before I can let you go to dreamyland, I have to tell you the new label I came up with today. Padre Steve and I were discussing the proper way to label a person with red-skinned forebears. He asked, and I eventually answered “Ohiotankata.” Hmmmm, now that is a very stupid looking word, is it not? That is because it is an acronym, albeit a lengthy one. But then, it is for a very lengthy time (since 1492), that the Original Human Inhabitants Of The Areas Now Known As The Americas have been WRONGLY labelled as Indians. And that includes our continents, which never previously needed a name, not be called the Americas, South and North, and Central for the landbridge between them. It is very confusing to me, and it must be very confusing to lots of others, how inhabitants of the areas now known as the Americas can be called Indians, when indeed Indians come from India.
    Rant here: WE ARE NOT INDIANS! We are not natives, or native Americans–everyone is a hative of the place they were born, or the land where the parents live. We are not Aboriginals, most every nation in the world had people now called aboriginal. In fact, our best name is no name at all. But, seeing as humans love to label everything and everyone, I want us to have a label all our own, a label that accurately describes our geographical history, without any arrogant and insulting input from anyone, not even Christofo Columbo. Until we come up with something better, I put forth the proposition that henceforth, and backforth, we be called original human inhabitants of the areas now known as the Americas. In short, Ohiotankata. (A plural noun.)

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    • Well, as to what got me started on this topic, a new reader has taken to leaving 1,000-word comments that seem to be highly critical of my viewpoints. I stepped back, did some self-analysis, and decided that no, I am not just as bad as the Red Guard or Nazi Youth! Sigh. I couldn’t really find a way to respond to the commenter, so this was my response. I’m open to discussion, but I really don’t enjoy being criticized by a person who has only read two posts and attempted to analyze me from the data contained therein, especially since one of them was only the transcript of Trump’s speech! Sigh.

      Yeah, I saw some of your back-and-forth with Padre, and again, it all makes me wonder why there have to be labels at all. No, they shouldn’t be called “Indians”, but I thought Native American or Indigenous People were the correct terms. I understand your term, it is a good one once you see the full explanation of the acronym, but if you don’t mind, I shall just call them ‘friend’, for I’m too damn old to remember all this. I’m old, I’m exhausted, I’m depressed, and I’m unwell … all of which makes me grumpy and ready to give up on everything. Sigh. I’m sorry … I don’t mean to be grump, really I don’t, but after being told every day for the past four days that everything I do and think is wrong, I’m about ready to just step away from this blog altogether. LuL

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      • You may be aware of the accusations against Steve Pinker and a petition to get him disbarred from the major linguistics association to which he is a member and receives licensing. This is the woke in action, presuming people are either for the ideology they are trying to implement in the name of all kinds of virtue or an Enemy of The People, thinking that anyone who criticizes the movement is equivalent to calling people who participate unwittingly in this ideological promotion terrible people (which is simply not true, just like I do not think poorly of you as a person other than you have been manipulated into supporting an illiberal agenda because you care), in the same way there are those who presume any criticism of religion must be bigoted against religious people (probably the most famous is by Ben Affliick on the Bill Maher show accusing Sam Harris of being a bigot against muslims because he dared to criticize Islam).

        This Steve Pinker issue is like the Evergreen College fiasco all over again, where the administrators of the licensing College are expected to roll over to these demands, to treat staff that did not go along with the woke professors and admit their racism publicly for refusing to stay away on Black-Only Tuesday (Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather Heying feared for their safety and were not allowed to teach, and later successfully sued for a small amount of damages), or the Oberlin College fiasco that has cost the administrators who kept doubling down on their ‘social justice’ participation against a local bakery the entire endowment of a College in damages. The difference is that Pinker is not rolling over and crying for redemption but fighting back. To this end, one of his supporters says something I think worth repeating here:

        “I’m tired of the believers in the Enlightenment being constantly on the defensive. “No, I’m not a racist or a misogynist … on the contrary, I’ve spent decades advocating for … yes, I did say that, but you completely misunderstood my meaning, which in context was … please, I’m begging you, can’t we sit and discuss this like human beings?”

        It’s time for more of us to stand up and say: yes, I am a center-left extremist. Yes, I’m an Enlightenment fanatic, a radical for liberal moderation and reason. If liberalism is the vanilla of worldviews, then I aspire to be the most intense vanilla anyone has ever tasted. I’m not a closeted fascist. I’m not a watered-down leftist. I’m something else. I consider myself ferociously anti-racist and anti-sexist and anti-homophobic and pro-downtrodden, but I don’t cede to any ideological faction the right to dictate what those terms mean. The world is too complicated, too full of ironies and surprises, for me to outsource my conscience in that way.”

        I think far too many people of good intentions have allowed their liberal principles to be ceded to an ideological agenda contrary to them. That’s why I comment as I do. The vast swath of American voters are here in the middle and wee need to get rid of Trump but not replace him with the same post modern problem where an ideological narrative is used to replace reality. That kind of capitulation is deadly to all of us today and the enlightenment principles for generations to come. We have to do better.

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        • I agree, it’s clear we the voting public must do better. But under a rigged 2 party system, there’s no possible way to improve our plight. Why do you think the DNC chose Biden of all ppl… he’s the senile version of GW Bush, but more to the right! The Republicans never intended for Trump to win in 2016, in all honesty they would rather see Hillary at the Helm! Trump is an outlier who happened to capture the zeitgeist of populism in our country b/c ppl are sick and tired, ready for economic change. Of course Trump was simply a fast talking con man who scammed himself one term, but he’s not fooling anyone this time around. Biden will easily win, but status quo Joe won’t even offer the illusion of “return to normalcy or decency” under the bygone era of Obama. Clearly you see American politics has become a soul sucking race to the bottom!
          Third party is now the only course for meaningful change, that’s where Bernie Sanders blew it. He stated back in the 80’s that the only way to change the system is to run as an independent 3rd party, no corporate or special interest donations, grass roots green. Well he came close, got 2 outta 3, but got clobbered by the DNC during the primaries. Currently there’s no one in public office who fight for the interests of citizens.

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      • If you need help talking to this person, tell me where to find him. Maybe I should go back and look at the comments you get, but I too am busy with other things.
        Not everyone is as extreme as I am, but Native American is too restrictive, and Indigenous People exist all over the world. We Ohiotankata are the only ones in the world without a label that exists only for us by us. Granted, we never were a true group since the time we crossed the Bering Land Bridge a thousand centuries ago. I don’t know if the people we call Aborigines in Australia feel the same way, but I hope they do. If they have a group label for themselves, I have never heard it. Everyone should have a name for themselves, and it should not be an English, or British, word.
        Jill, please take a break before you are forced to take one. It might be longer than we want it to be.

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        • I think I will take you up on that offer … I’ll email you later today after I’ve had a couple hours of sleep. I’m at a loss for how to respond to some of these comments.

          I agree … everyone should have a name, an identity, and I’m willing to use that name. I just cannot keep up these days, with what is proper and what isn’t. I don’t ever wish to offend, but … I don’t know how to do better.

          Sigh. I know, but … I cannot stop. Cannot take a break. I think when/if I do, it will be a permanent break.

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          • Just to let you into my mind for awhile, and this has absolutely nothing to do with you or most of your friends and readers, I do not appreciate political correctness if you do it only to hide your ignorance.
            When you say “you don’t know how to do better,” at least you show you are trying for the right reasons. That is not ignorance, it is understanding there are reasons for being kind and compassionate to those not like you.
            The first step to improvement is taking the time to listen to how you think, write, and speak. If you are labelling a person or group of people, stop and ask yourself, am I saying what I want to say in the best way I know how to say it.
            This is not easy, even for me, after a lifetime of not paying attention, for assuming words do not hurt. They do, very much so.
            BTW, belated birthday wishes to your country, while it is still one nation.
            I will be watching for your email. LuL, vm.

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            • Words of wisdom, indeed. I do try, but often fail. Keith and I just had a similar conversation about labels, and I admit that I do sometimes use them … particularly when it comes to two groups: evengelicals and republicans. It really isn’t very helpful though, is it?

              Thanks for the belated birthday wishes for the country, but I found nothing to celebrate this year. I was surprised, given the demographics of my neighborhood, that some on my street found reason to celebrate … with LOUD fireworks … until well after midnight for three nights in a row. Ah well, it’s over for another year. Perhaps next year we will have a country that’s trying to pick up the pieces and at least is on the right track.

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