Debatable
Nancy Pelosi has said she thinks there should be no presidential debates, and it is a thought I had myself a few days ago. Her reasoning is much along the same lines as my own was, that …
“I don’t think there should be any debates. I wouldn’t legitimize a conversation with him [Trump], nor a debate in terms of the presidency of the United States.”
I agree. Mostly. Or at least I did. I would dearly love to see Joe Biden tell Trump that he would not lower himself to a debate with such an ignoramus who has never even read the damn U.S. Constitution. However … can you imagine what Trump would do with that? He would convince his base that Biden had something to hide or was afraid of him. So no … it isn’t the right option, but it sure would be fun!
On a brighter note, though, Biden can mop the floor with Trump’s ugly hairpiece if he plays his cards right. Biden is all the things that Donald Trump is not: intelligent, compassionate, caring, experienced, and an all-around good man. For the record, he does plan to participate in all three debates and I fully expect to see Trump make an arse of himself, while Biden shows himself to be a leader. My biggest concern is that Trump will turn the debates into a three-ring circus as is his wont, and Joe Biden’s intelligent statements will be lost in all the noise and detritus.
We’ll find out soon, for the first debate is in just over a month, September 29th. Although I rarely watch more than a few minutes of the debates, I think I will have to watch this one in its entirety … unless it causes me to throw my laptop across the room!
“We can trust him”
It is encouraging to see that some republicans, of the more educated and knowledgeable sort, are fed up with Trump. Over 100 of late Senator John McCain’s former staff members have signed off on a letter endorsing Joe Biden for President. A few key parts of the letter …
“We trust that as President, Joe Biden will lead an urgent, comprehensive national effort to contain the COVID pandemic. We trust he will call on Americans to remember our common interests and responsibilities, and not worsen the grievances that have polarized our politics. And we trust that he will defend American interests and values from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Given the incumbent president’s lack of competent leadership, his efforts to aggravate rather than bridge divisions among Americans, and his failure to uphold American values, we believe the election of former Vice President Biden is clearly in the national interest.”
But they aren’t alone! A group of former staff members of George W. Bush’s administration have also written a letter endorsing Joe Biden in the November election. Among the signatories are former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, Bush domestic policy adviser Sally Canfield, former Ambassador James K. Glassman and former U.S. Treasurer Rosario Marin. A few key parts …
“We are a group who served in George W. Bush’s administration. We have seen the importance of leadership up close and we know Joe Biden is the choice we need to make in November. Character matters in our leaders. Joe Biden has proven himself over years of public service. We have seen him respectfully reach across the aisle, consider a different point of view and make a thoughtful decision to benefit the nation. Joe Biden is courageous and will tell the American people what we are facing, but will also have a plan to guide us through this difficult time.
Over the past four years we, as a nation, have struggled with truth. Conspiracy theories have been legitimized and facts have been dismissed. The expertise of world-renowned scientists and physicians have been sidelined while the opinions of pundits have been embraced. Meanwhile, more than 170,000 Americans are dead due to this mismanaged crisis. As a nation, we have lost our moral compass. Children should never be separated from their parents and caged for seeking asylum in the US. It is cruel and inhumane. We need to get back to basics: facts matter, there is right and wrong. We can do that with Joe Biden in the Oval Office. He will listen to and work with experts to craft and execute plans to solve problems and ease suffering. Joe will act with integrity, he knows no other way to lead. We can trust him.”
We can trust him. Think about that one for a minute, folks. Remember, these are all republicans who have worked under other republican presidents, and yet, they are saying of Joe Biden … We Can Trust Him. Speaks volumes, doesn’t it?
Sick and Tired? Yeah … so???
So many times in recent weeks, I have heard or read comments that “I’m so sick of it all”, “I’m fed up with it all”, “I am going to tune it all out”. I get it … I’m sick, I’m fed up, I’m exhausted. BUT … I’m in this fight to the finish! No, I won’t whine about being exhausted and sick, for I think we all are, and no I won’t quit, just retreat into my shell while the bad guys take over the world! I’m going to FIGHT, dammit! If you need to take a break for a day or two, fine, I get that. But if you give up, if you let the bastards win, then … it’s as if you never entered the fight to begin with. You cannot rest on your laurels here, for this is a fight to the finish. Take a break, but don’t drop out, for this is too important … this is about the future of our children and grandchildren, but it is more than even that. It is about the survival of individual freedom in the United States, it is about our ability to be a part of the larger world, and it is, ultimately, about the survival of the planet, or rather life on Planet Earth.
If Biden doesn’t debate, he is a coward. It will look really bad for him and the democrats. If Trump is such a liar, then yeah, grow a pair, come up on stage and kick his ass. It’s that’s simple. Especially with how much Biden has trash talked in the past about things like wanting to punch Trump in the face. How mature is that?
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He will be debating, I never said he wouldn’t. Biden already has a pair, he’s a thousand times the man Trump is. And, I have no idea what you’re talking about … to the best of my knowledge Biden has never threatened physical violence against Trump. I have, but not Joe, I think.
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I didn’t say you said he wouldn’t, but there are people like Pelosi saying he shouldn’t. You can go do a search on the threat. That’s easy.
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Definitely sick and tired, but giving up is not an option! As the Nobel Laureate, Seamus Heaney, said : “Even if the hopes you started out with are dashed, hope has to be maintained.” Thank-you!
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Thank YOU, dear Ellen! Your friendship and support helps keep me from jumping off a cliff!
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Thank you for the snarky rants, up to the usual standard.I see.Fight the good fight but save a litle time for yourself
Cwtch Mawr,
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Oh yeah … I seem to never run out of snark or ranting material. Sigh. I can save time for myself, but … it doesn’t much help when all I see is darkness.
Cwtch Mawr
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When all you see is darkness, use it as a relaxation for a while, maybe that’s what you need.
Cwtch
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I think I’ve forgotten how to relax.
Cwtch
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That’s the enemy at work
Cwtch
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So refreshing to see so many Republicans or former Republicans renouncing the orange moron. Coming this close to the election it can only help Biden/Harris. As for the debates Jill, I too am tempted to favor Biden not even participating. But you’re right, just think what the crazy right-wingers would do with that. So, yes, he’s got to debate him. Biden said yesterday that he will debate him, and, be THE fact checker. Geez, he’s gonna be one busy dude!
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It is, and I understand that some of Mitt Romney’s former staffers have also come out in support of Biden. Sigh. I am no longer sure I can survive until November 4th …
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I know Jill. I’m teetering!! LOL
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At least three times a day, sometimes more, I can be heard to utter “Shoot me now … PLEASE!!!”
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“Children should never be separated from their parents and caged for seeking asylum in the US. It is cruel and inhumane. We need to get back to basics: facts matter, there is right and wrong. We can do that with Joe Biden in the Oval Office.”
Here’s a fact check article that came out yesterday on USA Today: Fact check: Obama administration approved, built temporary holding enclosures at southern border
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/26/fact-check-obama-administration-built-migrant-cages-meme-true/3413683001/
In 2019, former Trump administration acting Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement Thomas Homan confirmed the migrant holding facilities were built during the Obama administration during a panel hosted by The Center for Immigration Studies. The center is a “pro-immigrant, low-immigration” think tank, according to its website.
“The kids are being housed in the same facilities built under the Obama administration. If you want to call them cages, call them cages. But if the left wants to call them cages, and the Democrats want to call them cages, then they have to accept the fact that they were built and funded in FY ’15, and I was there,” Homan said, according to a transcript.
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Jill, there should be debates. Clinton beat Trump in all three debates. I think Biden will do fine. Biden had a great and accurate line in rebuttal last night – this is happening on your watch. In essence, Mr. president, you have the job now. I would add Trump is saying hire me again to drench racial fires while holding a can of gasoline. Keith
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Ms Pelosi is an astute political strategist with a killer instinct and knows how to win. If i were Joe i would definitely sit out the debates, his cognitive decline is notable and will hurt his overall chances. Trump will certainly use that against him, why play into the Repug’s game.
Also lately his racial gaffes are too blatant to ignore, he is turning off young black voters with his offensive comments in interviews and podcasts. The DNC has to control the situation better, NO public appearances or live interviews, no off the cuff remarks… stick to the script. His well rehearsed speech off the teleprompter at the DNC convention was perfect!
The less we see of Joe, the greater his chance of victory – remember Biden is not charismatic or intelligent as Obama. I’m glad Dems learned a valuable lesson from Hillary, when our candidate is not popular and unpalatable to the public, do not allow them to talk!! Hillary’s poll numbers kept dropping every time she spoke, let’s NOT repeat the same mistake with Biden. Right now the poll numbers indicate that Trump is closing in, altho still a sizable gap in Biden’s favor, Trump must be defeated at all cost!!!
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I’ve been blissfully gone for the past few days – we lost internet service. Oh my, how dependent we have become on the internet….it is scary. Good to be back. Did you know that major league baseball has taken a break? The players walked off the fields yesterday in protest of social violence and injustice. Today, we celebrate #42, Jackie Robinson. Insults, verbal abuse, death threats could not stop him from taking his position on the playing field…and he had the support of his white teammates. I love baseball. It’s a civilized game manned by great role models for our kids.
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I missed you, but glad you had a nice break!!! Indeed, if the internet goes down, electricity goes out, or cell phones stop working, it seems we are incapable of doing anything but sitting around looking at each other! Yes, I heard about MLB and also the basketball playoffs! I am so proud of the players for taking a stand! Speaking of Jackie Robinson … I’m sure you’ve heard about the death of Chadwick Boseman by now? The only movie of his that I ever saw was “42”. Now I want to watch it again! But, I also want to see the one where he played Thurgood Marshall.
Glad you’re back online!
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Jill…you need some humor. Delete this if you want, but read it first. These ladies outdid themselves with this. And warn your readers, it is full of dirty words, but oh so funny…
https://margaretandhelen.com/2020/08/27/trump-lies-and-before-you-know-it-youre-drinking-bleach-sticking-a-lightbulb-up-your-ass-and-using-the-c-word/
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Thank you, Mary! I have followed Margaret and Helen since early in my blogging days, and Ellen sent me this one last night! They make me laugh, and they are so spot on in their opinions! Thanks again!
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I am so sick of his lies, tantrums, and psychosis.
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Yes, we all are … another four years??? No way!!!
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I do tune out but I will always come back and do my bit as much as I can. Wouldn’t want to leave this world knowi g I’ve missed something to make this planet a better place. These republicans give me hope. Surely there must be some republican voters too who have some common sense? 🙋♀️🐝
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If only everybody were like you, dear Bee! And you aren’t going anywhere yet … the world needs you! There are some of the more intelligent republicans who have turned away from Trump and promising to support Biden, but then there is his hardcore base who disavow all facts and believe only what he tells them to believe. That 40% isn’t likely to turn away from him, no matter how hateful and cruel he is. Sigh. 🙋♀️
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That’s because they are the same. Hopefully Biden can bring the rest together and this dark night of the US can end 🙋♀️🐝
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I’m hoping, but I think this dark night will take more than just one term to fix, and … well … sigh.
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“If you need to take a break for a day or two, fine, I get that. But if you give up, if you let the bastards win, then… it’s as if you never entered the fight to begin with… Take a break, but don’t drop out, for this is too important….”
Sounds like the doctor is not taking her own medicine. Just yesterday you said you don’t like anyone who force their beliefs on anyone else. I just thought I would call you on that…
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Fighting to save the country from a madman is not what I’d consider a ‘belief’, but rather an obligation. But, I do see your point. Duly noted.
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