Yes Guns, Again …

Two bills passed in the House last week and will now proceed to the Senate:

H.R. 8 would require a background check for nearly every gun sale or transfer. If signed into law, this bill would ensure that individuals already prohibited from gun possession under federal law, such as felons and domestic abusers, are not able to easily obtain firearms.  Under present law, such criminals are able to bypass background checks by purchasing a gun through unlicensed gun sellers – people who sell guns online, at gun shows, or person-to-person without a federal dealer’s license. Federal law already requires licensed gun dealers to conduct background checks on gun purchasers or transferees; this bill would extend the requirement of background checks to unlicensed gun sellers as well.

H.R. 1446 would close the so-called “Charleston Loophole,” which currently allows the sale of a firearm to proceed if a background check is not completed within three business days. While 97 percent of background checks are processed within 3 business days, hundreds of thousands of incomplete background checks enter into “default proceed” status each year. If signed into law, an applicant could request an escalated review by the FBI if a background check had not been completed after the initial 10 business days.

This is what Warren Davidson, the U.S. House representative for my own district said about the bills in his weekly newsletter last Saturday …

warren-davidsonAlso, this week the House considered two gun control bills, H.R. 8 and H.R. 1446. Though we already have an effective background check system in place, both bills would make it even more difficult and burdensome on law-abiding Americans to exercise their natural right to purchase and own a firearm. The effect of these bills is to criminalize mere possession of a firearm unless an individual has passed a background check and had their name added to a registry.

This violates not only the Second Amendment, but the Fourth Amendment, as these registries violate the privacy of law-abiding Americans who merely wish to exercise their God-given rights. Such a registry could lead to the eventual confiscation and disarming of Americans who have done nothing wrong. At the same time, the Democrat sponsors of these bills are doing nothing to address the ways that criminals actually do obtain weapons illegally.

Since entering Congress, I have always defended Americans’ right to bear arms. The right to keep and bear arms, clearly recognized in the Constitution, is an essential part of our founding principles, and I will always defend it. These bills now go to the Senate, which will hopefully stand up for our rights and defeat these misguided bills.

I find his views offensive, to say the least.  What the Sam Hell is a “natural right to purchase and own a firearm”?  When I think of ‘natural right’, I think of the right to fresh air, potable water, and food … I do not think of a gun.  And then … “God-given rights”???  The first recorded use of a firearm was in 1364, and the first handgun was introduced in 1892.  I’m not a Christian, have never read the book some Christians follow, but I would bet money that there isn’t a single mention of guns in the bible!

Congressman Mike Doyle of Pennsylvania had this to say about the bills …

“These bills are long overdue. Pittsburgh has seen too much senseless gun violence, and these bills are a commonsense step to ending the epidemic of gun violence in America. These bills will close existing loopholes that allow dangerous weapons to fall into the wrong hands. We need them to help keep our communities safe, prevent violence, and save lives. No one should be able to buy a gun without passing a background check, plain and simple.”

I think I’ll move to Pennsylvania!  His views are far more sensible than those of Mr. Davidson.

We are 75 days into the year and already 8,746 people have died as a result of guns. Per the national Gun Violence Archive: 3,796 of those were homicides, the other 4,950 were suicides.  There have been 94 mass shootings.  58 children under the age of 11 have been killed by guns, and another 121 have been injured.  227 teens have been killed by guns, and another 540 have been injured.

Mr. Davidson claims these bills would “make it more difficult and burdensome” to purchase a gun … it should be difficult and burdensome for a person to purchase something that is created for the sole purpose of killing!  It should be damn near impossible!

We have a serious gun problem in this nation and for elected officials to stand up and say it is a ‘natural right’ or a ‘God-given right’ for everyone to own a gun and that no legislation should be passed that might keep guns out of the hands of people who are not qualified to own one is simply ludicrous!  Will these two bills pass in the Senate?  Probably not, unless something is done about the filibuster rule, for Congress has become more of a battleground between the two parties rather than a branch of government working for the good of the nation and its people.  Nonetheless, I will send a short email to both of the senators in my state expressing my thoughts on the matter.  These two bills are only the tip of the iceberg for what needs to be done to make this nation safer.

HR8 passed in the House by a vote of 227-203, with 8 Republicans voting for it.  HR1446 passed by a vote of 219-210 with two Democrats voting against and two Republicans voting for.  There is a vaccine to prevent the coronavirus … I wish there were one to prevent stupidty.

61 thoughts on “Yes Guns, Again …

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      • You are being fully insane . Kids actually can own certain guns . If said mental person is not violent no issue them owning a gun if they are out of treatment for 6 months without issue . I do not care how others store their guns I care how I store mine . Destroying property or killing others is already pretty illegal not matter what you use

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        • Fully insane, eh? No, children are not permitted to own guns, at least not in the U.S. Frankly, I wish I had a magic button that would render every weapon on the planet useless. I seek peace on earth, not killing. Love, not hatred. Guns have no place in a world where people learn to accept others and treat all with kindness and respect. I’m very sorry for you that hatred seems to live within you.

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          • then you would erase everything because any object can be a weapon in any persons hands . I can roll and fold a magazine into a bludgeon then hit someone with it . lamp plug can become a nose . kids can own hunting rifles dipshit. Let me guess in your fantasy world all free will is gone and all must be gay vegans too ?

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              • We actually do have a need for them gonna guess you live in some big leftist city and never leave it . I live in the Country were real threats from animals exist. Guns are one of the best tool to protect ones self from all kinds of threats. Not everyone can afford a private security detail nor can we always call the cops and have the show up in a timely manner. When seconds count police are at best minutes away . Also knives tomahawks and other practical tools can be weapons in war would you ban that too? We do not live in a prefect world this will never be a utopia where your dream of strict rigid control is enacted to ensure compliance / peaceful slavery. I rather have dangerous freedom not slavery. You think gun owners will just give up our property? Your lil confiscation bullshit will kick off a second revolutionary war / Civil war if that is your aim fine I’m your Huckleberry let kick it off

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                • You draw conclusions … erroneous ones. However, I would ask … what makes you so certain that your life has more value than a wolf’s or a mountain lion’s? No, I have no illusions that you gun owners will willingly give up your firearms … nor does anybody else. I would take them if I could, but I know that I would die in the attempt and for what purpose? But, I hope that anybody who kills with a gun spends the rest of their life behind bars. No exceptions. Then, perhaps, people like yourself will think twice before actually using that lethal toy.

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                  • You are absolutely retarded . So you think nobody has a right to use lethal force for self defense ? Or that police / government officials are the only ones to be allowed to have and use gun vs citizens . That is stupid and anti freedom. So you also think I should just a wild animal or a vile person like yourself attack me? You have to be a god damn troll .

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                    • Nice use of ableist slurs there Asher – shall we add that to the pile of examples of your woeful behaviour? You said to me once that an armed society is a polite society, yet as I have mentioned to you repeatedly, the USA has a much bigger problem with gun violence than the UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, Germany, France etc… you’ll probably reply with ‘um… Constitution!’, without stopping to wonder if there’s a way to safely have guns (ala Germany) and reduce the loss of life from gun crime.

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                    • While I encourage civil discourse, a sharing of different points of view, on this blog, I do not tolerate disrespect toward me or my readers. Therefore, this conversation is over and you are no longer welcome on Filosofa’s Word. Go find someone else to harass.

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              • I feel like I owe you an apology. Asher has routinely posted comments on one of my sites, where he demonstrates a lack of understanding of pretty much any point raised, and instead attacks the imagined version in his mind.

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  3. Coming from a country with a more violent past than yours, but where it is not normal for anyone to carry a gun without a really good reason, those bills look like no-brainers; why would anyone in their right mind or with no vested interest oppose them? I can see why, historically, people felt the need to carry guns in the US, in the same way as we had armed bands on the roads once upon a time. And I hesitate to comment on another country’s laws and customs; but isn’t it time to move on?

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    • ‘Tis true that your country has a more violent past, but mainly because you have a much longer history — we are basically still a new nation, still learning. I fully agree … it should NOT be normal for a person to carry a gun wherever they go, but I have seen them in the bookstore, the grocery store and elsewhere. They are opposed by the Republicans who get much of their campaign financing from the NRA, which is a lobbyist group funded by … you guessed it … the gun manufacturers! And, among the citizenry, they have been fed a line of b.s. that it is their ‘right’ and even duty to own guns. At one time, this country was considering legislation to make it mandatory for each household to have at least one gun! Yes, it is time to move on, time to realize that a person’s life is worth more than the profits of the gun industry, but … sigh … it’s not likely to happen anytime soon.

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        • That is another big issue we need to work on — campaign finance. The Citizens United decision in 2010 opened the door to large corporate donations, and now half of our members of Congress are in the pockets of the fossil fuel and gun industries.

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  4. Yes come move to PA! 🙂
    I can assure you that guns aren’t mentioned in the bible and that God never intended it to be a right like so many claim!!
    A vaccine for stupidity would be amazing, though the ones who need it wouldn’t get it for they don’t think they have a problem!

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    • I just might! If Ohio passes the bill to dedicate a holiday and a national park to the former guy, I am so out of here!

      As I told a very religious friend a few nights ago, if God supports a machine that has the sole purpose of killing, then I want no part of such a cruel and evil ‘God’.

      I think we would force that vaccine on the ones who needed it … if nothing else, sneak into their houses in the dead of night and inject them while they sleep! 👻

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  5. “‘natural right’, I think of the right to fresh air, potable water, and food ”

    Exactly, Jill.

    Thank you for pointing these out.

    And many people, through no fault of their own whatsoever, lack these basic natural rights, and that most defining right:

    the natural right to Human Dignity.

    Stay safe,
    -Shira

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    • Exactly! People here decry the fact that it takes a bit of paperwork and a short waiting period to buy a gun — a machine whose sole purpose is killing — while other people are starving to death, dying of the cold, of lack of medical care. We in the West have no clue … we have become so spoiled in our privileges … SIGH.

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      • Yup.
        And some of those folks here in the West also lack access to these basics, having been left out of those privileges.

        That’s why we continue to educate, to open eyes, to build empathy, and to teach Critical Thinking via every tool in our toolbox, right?

        (and try to add a few tools…)

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          • Frequently.
            I do.
            But, then I look back at my ancestresses, like my 2xs great grandmother Celest Mayo (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Armstrong-17228), ill, caring for a child on not enough to live on, facing apathy; or my other 2x great grandmother, whom you may have already seen mentioned in some of my posts, who fought to prove that her husband (my 2x gr. grandfather) was indeed murdered, while struggling to keep her kids together, and I say to myself that I have no right to give up.
            And then I think of my enslaved ancestresses, and I remember that I must keep fighting, for them and for us.

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            • Wow, Shira … that’s quite an ancestry you have there! I am eager to read more about both of your 2x great grandmothers! They are an inspiration and remind me that while I may be tired, others have been through so much more than I and keep on fighting. As shall I!

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  6. Yes, I fell on that time-worn phrase ‘God-Given Rights’ and wondered just who g*d had visited with this bit of good news to pass on.Anyway, her Second Amendment mentions a well-regulated militia, so surely that’s the National Guard and/or the State Defence Forces. After this point, you don’t need civilians with guns. I’m really sorry to see that suicides exceeded homicides, which were bad enough. I wonder how much of that was due to Covid19.
    Cwtch.

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    • You already know that I am in full agreement with you. I see no reason on earth that the average Joe needs to own any sort of gun, let alone an assault rifle that can kill hundreds of people within minutes. The loons claim it is for ‘self-defense’, but I’ve lived nigh on 70 years through some hellish situations, and never once needed a gun to defend myself! Usually my words and a well-placed kick were plenty. In my book, those who claim they ‘need’ a gun are cowards … shooting a gun is the easy way out … using your wits takes … well, wits. Suicides exceeding homicides isn’t uncommon, but I’d bet money that the pandemic is a large part of it this year and last. I think probably most of us have given it at least a passing thought over the last year.
      Cwtch

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  7. The “right to bear arms” is an amendment to the US constitution for goodness sake. As for “natural” or “God-given” rights, the mind boggles. It borders on mythology, just like the popular myth within the American gun lobby that the government of Aotearoa New Zealand has banned gun ownership and/or confiscated all our guns. Pure rubbish.

    I’m not in favour of guns for self protection, and in this country it’s not possible due to regulations around their storage and transport. Guns don’t provide protection. All they do is ensure is that the person who is the faster and more accurate shooter wins – with deadly consequences. It’s not the kind of lottery I would wish to face. The odds of surviving an armed intrusion are considerably increased if oneself is not armed. After all, the reason the intruder is armed in the first place is for their own self protection.

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  8. those morons who say it is their God-given right to do whatever they want have zero clue about either the Bible or the Constitution and its amendments. AMENDMENTS are just that…laws we put into place and can just as easily take them out when the culture changes. think it is damned well time to repeal the second. We have a standing army. we don’t need it anymore.

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    • I fully agree, Suze! I was just saying in another comment that it is past the time for the Constitution to be revised … it is, after all, 234 years old! (Older than mine and yours combined ages, even!) I would like to see some restrictions on the 1st Amendment and I’d like to see the 2nd Amendment thrown out altogether. But, can you imagine such a proposal in our divided Congress??? The framers of the Constitution never imagined the ways in which people would abuse the 2nd Amendment, never imagined such horrible things as assault weapons … and yet, today’s gun nuts say this is their ‘right’, as provided by the Constitution. NO, IT ISN”T! Sigh. Perhaps when some Republican congressman’s son is killed in a senseless shooting, they will take it seriously. Meanwhile, a mass shooting tonight in Atlanta … 8 killed. And so it goes …

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  9. A little sarcasm, Jill? Perhaps one explains the God-given right to bear arms by saying that God gave Moses two tablets of stone that could also be thrown at others` 😉 But as already mentioned, there are plenty of weapons here in Germany that these people don’t need either. Arms trade is very good business, both large and small.

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    • Sarcasm? Moi? Ha ha … yes, my friend, of course there is sarcasm! I am, after all, called the Queen of Snark! You might think I was ill if I wasn’t at least a little bit sarcastic … especially on this topic that is one of my pet peeves.

      Personally, I think guns are the single worst invention of the human species! Yes, and I was surprised when you told me about the guns in Germany, for I thought all of Europe had very strict gun laws. People make all manners of excuses about guns, but the bottom line is that guns are manufactured with only one purpose: to kill. There really is no other reason anybody owns a gun. Sigh.

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  10. You picked out the phrase in Davidson’s incredibly stupid statement that stood out for me: ‘God given right.’ From a non-American perspective, so much that is wrong with your country seems to be the result of people thinking that claiming to believe in ‘God’ gives them the right to do anything they like. This also seems to include the right to misread the Constitution, and to align it with their own beliefs. I wonder how many of them have actually read it, or have taken time to consider what the words actually mean. The document is approaching 250 years old: maybe it’s time for an update, in words of one syllable or fewer.

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    • I fully agree! This is part of the problem I have with religions … people interpret them to suit their own desires, then try to enforce them on us all. In this case, I thought it was the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a while … owning a gun, an instrument of murder, is a god-given right??? Some of the insurrectionists who attacked the Capitol and Congress on January 6th said that “God told me to.” It seems the concept of God has become a scapegoat, a convenience open to the interpretation of individuals as they please. As to how many of these fools have actually read the U.S. Constitution … I’d bet few, if any. It is only just over 8,000 words … about 3 days worth of my posts … but few have read it. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that few of our members of Congress have actually read and studied it! I read it for the first time when I started grad school and was taking my first course in Constitutional Law, and I was amazed at how clearly and simply it was written … it was written so every person could read and understand it. Yet, how many even bother? It is definitely time for an update, but … can you envision Democrats and Republicans agreeing on any single revision? Hah! I would like to see some constraints placed on the 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech, and I would like to see the 2nd Amendment “Right to bear arms” eradicated altogether. But, my wish list is not that of the majority in this country. Sigh.

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      • I have that problem too, but I think it is much more an issue there than here. Hiding behind ‘God’ is the refuge of the cowardly, and of those who don’t take responsibility for their actions. From my reading, the 2nd Amendment was never intended to be interpreted the way it is now. But, as you say, it is a seemingly impossible task to remove it.

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        • You’re right … it is definitely a bigger problem here, as we are such a diverse nation with so many religions (and non-religions) represented, some of which would like to change this from a secular nation to one dominated by their own religion. Yes, hiding behind ‘God’ is a cop out … people use it to cover their own mistakes, saying it must have been “God’s will”. I had a friend some years ago who was going through some serious financial difficulties. One day I ran into her and asked her how she was dealing with it all. Her response? “Oh fine … I put it all in God’s hands and asked him to work it out, so now I don’t worry about it.” I was stunned. She is now serving a lengthy prison sentence … I guess she got her answer, eh? Sadly, she isn’t alone. But back to the gun discussion … did you hear about the mass shooting in Atlanta just last night? 8 people died. And so it goes on …

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          • We’re pretty diverse too, in religious terms, but there don’t seem to be as many people here – particularly among our ‘leaders’ – who are so overtly pushing that line. The example of your former friend should be enough to persuade the zealots that their God may not have all the answers. Yes, our news covered the murders. Given the former guy’s racist words, on so many occasions, and the rise in anti-Asian racial incidents there, it is sad to say that it was coming. I hope the incident is treated as domestic terrorism, for that is what it is.

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            • Definitely so … I have responded to many who said that “God” would take care of everything (this is even their excuse for ignoring climate change) that if God exists, he gave them a brain for a purpose … use it! Could this be why I don’t have as many friends as I once did? 😲

              Sigh. This is, I fear, only the beginning. We are a bigoted, racist nation with hate triumphing over love, evil over good, bigotry over equality. I suspect there will be much brouhaha over the murders of 8 people, 6 of them Asian women, and then in two weeks it will be on to the next sensational story. Sigh. Why do I bother?

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              • I think it’s ‘God’s’ way of sorting out your friends for you: those who can think and those who just look for excuses.

                The problem is that this will just become the latest in the regular sequence of atrocities. Your country needs a root and branch change, but there are too many vested interests preventing it.

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                • You’ve hit that nail squarely on the head, Clive. The NRA is the single most powerful lobby in the country and they, along with the politicos they own, have convinced people that to own a gun is their “god-given” right, that if they don’t protect that ‘right’, the government will come for their guns and they will lose all other rights. And who is behind it all? The gun manufacturers, of course! And it’s become so ingrained in the culture of this nation that some have even willingly given up their children rather than give up their guns! Sigh.

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                  • There’s no accounting for stupidity of that magnitude, is there. I wonder if any of them has ever stopped to think why they have them, other than it being their ‘right’ under the common misreading of the Constitution. Guns are killing machines, so why have them, unless you are going to kill people or animals? If you aren’t, you don’t need one.

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                    • They claim it is to protect themselves and their family, but frankly, I’ve lived on this earth for almost 70 years and never once needed a gun to protect myself or my family. And the truth is that, as you say, a gun serves only one purpose — to kill. Most shootings in this country are NOT self-defense. Some are accidents, some are suicides, many are done in anger. I see zero purpose in the average civilian owning a gun of any sort, let alone an assault weapon that can mow down dozens of people within a minute. It’s insane!

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                    • I completely agree. If self defence is the justification, it follows logically that if there were no guns, people wouldn’t need them for self defence anyway. But the morons will never accept that.

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                    • You and I see the logic in that, but the gun nuts say “Oh, well, a bad guy will always find a way to get a gun, so the ‘good’ guys have to have them, too.” It’s a circular argument and one that is so entrenched in the minds of many that I don’t know how you change it. And, realistically, we don’t even know how many guns are in the hands of civilians. I have a friend whose brother-in-law lives in Georgia and has an arsenal in his garage … every kind of killing machine you could imagine. If guns were banned tomorrow, I don’t know how we would ever disarm this nation.

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                    • No, I’m afraid guns are a political football over here. Heck, they even refuse to ban assault rifles! They refuse to vote for expanded background checks. The don’t even want to ban a person who has been convicted of beating his wife or children from owning a gun.

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                    • Indeed so. And, I’ve long held that idea that men who feel … um … not manly enough, need a gun to make them so. However, more and more women seem to be getting into guns these days, so I don’t know what their excuse is.

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