Whose Freedom — Yours Or Ours???

It’s puzzling to me … the variety of ways that people view ‘freedom.’  The United States is considered a relatively free nation, but that doesn’t mean that people living here can do as they damn well please.  The same is true of Canada … yes, the people are free in most every important way, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t rules.  The rules in the U.S., Canada, and most every other western nation are put into place to protect people, the ‘greater good’ as we tend to think of it.  For example, there are speed limits on highways to keep people safe, and there are age requirements for such things as a driving license, drinking alcohol, etc., all intended to keep us safe. Childhood vaccines keep our children safe in schools and rules against smoking in public keep us all safe in public venues.  But some things are less clear, though common sense should rule but often fails to.

In early 2020, a global pandemic hit most nations including the United States, and safety measures were quickly put into place in an attempt to protect everyone from this deadly illness.  Many states closed all non-essential businesses and implemented travel restrictions, restrictions on gatherings, and mask mandates.  Most people respected and observed these measures – sure, we may have grumbled a bit, but we could plainly see, despite the lies told by then-president Trump, that this pandemic was serious and was taking people’s lives, so we did the right thing.  Most of us, anyway.

Quickly, in the grand scheme of things, a vaccine was developed, tested, and proven effective against the coronavirus.  The vaccine was rolled out at record speed, and everyone was happy to do their part and be vaccinated, yes?  Wishful thinking.  In fact now, a year or so after the first vaccines were administered, there is still some 30% of the population in the U.S. that are, by their own choice, unvaccinated.  They claim that they have the ‘freedom’ to choose whether to be vaccinated or not.  On the surface, this almost sounds reasonable except … these people walk among us.  They go to work and risk exposing their co-workers, their children go to school, often without masks, and take a chance on infecting their schoolmates.  They go into public venues such as grocery stores, libraries, restaurants, tobacco shops and more, again without masks, and risk the lives of any they come in contact with.  Why?  Because they claim it is an infringement on their ‘personal freedom’ to expect them to be vaccinated.  Some, like the ignominious Sarah Palin, have even said they would choose death over the vaccine.

In my book, these people have no understanding of what personal freedom is. You cannot live in and be a part of a society if you have no care for the other members of that society.  You cannot take without giving.  When, by exercising that which you mistakenly believe is your ‘right,’ you put other people at risk for serious disease and possibly even death, then you have effectively pointed a loaded gun at them.

Unfortunately, some members of one of the two main political parties in the U.S. appears to be on the side of people’s ‘personal freedom’ over other people’s lives.  Certain Republicans in Congress have voiced a desire to see a trucker’s convoy to protest mask mandates similar to the one that has disrupted life in Ottawa, Canada, happen in the U.S.

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky has expressed his ‘thoughts’ on the Canadian convoy …

“I’m all for it. Civil disobedience is a time-honored tradition in our country, from slavery to civil rights to you name it. Peaceful protest, clog things up, make people think about the mandates. I hope the truckers do come to America, and I hope they clog up cities.”

Specifically, he said he hoped they disrupted the Super Bowl that was played in Los Angeles yesterday (they didn’t) and that they would go to Washington D.C. on the day of President Biden’s State of the Union Address scheduled for March 1st.   Interestingly, Senator Paul’s idea of freedom apparently only applies to people with white skin, for he gave no such support to Black Lives Matter protests after the brutal murders of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and others by police. He referred to those protestors as ‘thugs’ and a ‘crazed mob.’  They were protesting vicious murders by the very people we pay to keep us safe, and Rand Paul called them ‘thugs,’ yet he praises those who would disrupt the entire country both physically and economically because they are told to wear a mask in public and get a little vaccine that doesn’t even hurt!  Paul had the poor taste to joke about a potential trucker’s convoy, saying, “It’d be nice change. We’d actually have some traffic.”

The Department of Homeland Security distributed a bulletin to law enforcement agencies warning that a convoy of protesting truckers will potentially begin in California as early as mid-February and arrive in D.C. as late as mid-March.  And all of this because some people are so selfish that they consider it a burden to protect their own health as well as that of their friends, co-workers, and families.  This is not ‘freedom,’ my friends, this is greedy, arrogant ignorance.

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  1. As one who has taken three COVID-vaccine injections, as well as the annual influenza shots, I basically believe the science behind the stated safety and benefit of vaccines in general. Still, I feel the term ‘science’ generally gets used a bit too readily/frequently, especially for political purposes. Also, I’m cautious of blindly buying into (what I call) speculative science, in general.

    As disturbing as it sounds, due to increasingly common privatized research for corporate profit aims, even science, and perhaps by extension scientific ‘fact’, has become commercialized. Research results, however flawed, can and are known to be publicly amplified if they favor the corporate product, and accurate research results can be suppressed or ignored if they are unfavorable to business interests, even when involving human health. …

    What also comes to mind is Health Canada (our version of the U.S. FDA), which was established to act in Canadian consumers’ best interests, yet it’s susceptible to corporate lobbyist manipulation. For one thing, it allowed novelty-flavored vaping products to be fully marketed — even on corner stores’ candy counters — without conclusive independent scientific proof that the product, as claimed by the tobacco industry, would not seriously harm consumers but rather help nicotine addicts wean themselves off of the more carcinogenic cigarette means of nicotine deliverance.

    A few years before that, Health Canada had sat on its own research results that indicated seatbelts would save lives and reduce injury; it wanted even more proof of safety through seatbelts before ordering big bus manufacturers to install them in every bus. To me, those examples smell of science-be-damned lobbyist manipulation — something that should not prevail in a government body established primarily, if not solely, to protect consumers’ safety and health rather than big businesses’ monetary concerns.

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    • Sigh. Too many people think they have the ‘right’ to do as they wish, no matter who it harms. Let’s hope that whatever evil is on the sky gets blown away with the wind. We need some peace! xx

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  2. YOU telling us something stupid IS MEANINGLESS TO US. You come sit at a border crossing that is so jammed up with idiots-in-trucks that you cannot go home, or to work! The citizens of COUTTS cannot go grocery shopping, because there are no groceries. Meanwhile trailers are sitting on both sides of the border, filled with goods that are time-sensitive. What’s inside them will not be edible by the time they reach where I live, if they even try to come up here.
    Take your idiotic lies and stupid accusations and peddle them elswhere. The majority of people here just want to live their lives as best they can, without horn-honking a**holes making it impossible to sleep, or go about our own lives.
    You want to protest, go ahead. But do it in a way that does not stop everyone else from getting on with their lives. Sheer selfishness! And completely dishonourable!

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  3. Dear Jill
    Thank you for this post. I am surprised that you, an intelligent women obviously, have yet to see the bigger picture and wake up to what is actually going on.
    The real culprits in this affair are the medical Nazis and the communists who came out of Germany. The principal vaccine makers are Germanic in origin. Bayer is based in Germany. The company marketed heroin, the narcotic drug of which you will well aware.
    We should be united against them, not involved in in-fighting which is what the evil elites who run this world want us to do. This enables them to distract us whilst stealing our health and wealth and sanity.
    You said “….he praises those who would disrupt the entire country both physically and economically because they are told to wear a mask in public and get a little vaccine that doesn’t even hurt!”
    Perhaps you have not noticed that the country has been disrupted both physically and economically already by the pointless lockdowns etc. In the UK it is the same.
    As to the vaccines I believe I have already told you they are pointless at best. Do you have shares in the companies and benefit financially, or are you just deluded as to what they actually do as I was once deluded?
    You have said “And all of this because some people are so selfish that they consider it a burden to protect their own health as well as that of their friends, co-workers, and families. This is not ‘freedom,’ my friends, this is greedy, arrogant ignorance.”
    No, it is you who are selfish, arrogant and ignorant as are those who refuse to realise they have been deceived by big pharma and their cronies into paying good money via taxes for something utterly pointless, and likely to be harmful or even deadly if our immune systems are not in good order.
    The vaccines do nothing to protect anybody and masks, if they do anything at all, might keep you from breathing in toxic diesel fumes etc, but not Covid 19, a.k.a the ‘flu since 2020 when it was re-branded to make big pharma etc more money.
    So get a grip of your perfectly good brain and start looking at matters in a more balanced way, and stop accusing those you do not understand of that which you yourself are guilty of.
    Kind regards
    Baldmichael Theresoluteprotector’sson

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      • Surely he doesn’t believe all that crap he spouts, which is why I think he was trying to be humorous, but it falls rather flat given all the conspiracy theories we’re subjected to these days.

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    • Dear Baldmichael. You are entitled to believe whatever the heck you want to believe, but nothing entitles you to put the lives of others at risk. I don’t care whether you BELIEVE that risk to be nonsense or not. That ‘nonsense’ has killed over 900,000 Americans already.

      Or do you think they were lined up in front of a ditch and shot the way the real Nazi’s did? Your comparison was disgusting, by the way. You should be ashamed of yourself.

      But speaking of Nazi’s, did you know that Goebbels was the master propagandist during the Third Reich? One of his most famous quotes is:
      ‘If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself’.

      You are being fed a litany of lies that absolve you of guilt over the people you may have unintentionally killed already.

      I don’t ‘like’ Big Pharma any more than you do, but American Big Pharma are not the only ones creating vaccines against Covid. America is not the world, no matter how much you may think it is. For that kind of conspiracy to work, it would have to be agreed to by every pharmaceutical company in the world…and every country in the world, including those countries that hate the West and the US in particular.

      Get your head out of the sand and have a look at the rest of the world for a change.
      As an Australian, I pity you.

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        • -hugs- I’m only just starting to learn about those so called Truckers on the Canadian border. Some of the crazy theories would be funny if everyone saw the joke. But to take them seriously? 😦

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          • Therein lies the problem … things like the truckers’ protest gain momentum quite easily among those dissatisfied with just about anything. It may start out seeming harmless, but as it gathers speed, more and more join the movement, and suddenly it erupts in violence and innocent lives are lost. Seems to be the way of the world these days. Sigh.

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                • Yes! The ‘Crown of Creation’. And I think half the reason the religious crowd hate Evolution so much is because they hate the idea of being ‘mere animals’.
                  Even when we try to distinguish ourselves from the rest of the animals by pointing to our tool using skills, we ignore the fact that a lot of other animals use tools too, including some birds!

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                  • Humans have a superiority complex … I chalk it up to those opposable thumbs! Personally, I think that animals are much more clever in figuring out how to survive without all the accoutrements such as machines, computers, etc., that humans seem to think are essential to life!

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                    • Biologically speaking, humans suck at survival. I suspect that’s why our intelligence evolved in the first place – if you can’t out bite or out run ’em, out think ’em.
                      In some ways, this is ‘Revenge of the Nerds’ on steroids.

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                    • Heck yes! If humans were to be deprived of electricity for, say, 6 months, I think the population on planet earth would be greatly reduced. We have mostly forgotten how to survive without grocery stores, telephones, electricity, the internet, et al. The day may well come, with the existence of EMPs, that we find out who can survive and who cannot. Sigh. Hugs, my friend!

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                    • Yes, but I fear it wouldn’t take six months. Without power, our big cities would begin to die within 2 weeks.
                      I’m no survivalist, but I take comfort in the fact that we could survive, at least for a while. We have tank water, trees for firewood, and I just recently learned you can flush toilets by pouring water into the cistern with a bucket. Ahem. Can’t get a plumber in to fix the damn thing so we’re making do.

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                    • You’re on the right path, anyway!!! Many decades ago, my late-ex-husband and I lived on a mountain top in rural Virginia and had a well for water. During the summer, the well would often run dry and that was when I learned that you can pour water into the toilet to flush it! I also learned to be conservative as heck with water and to grow a few veggies. Admittedly, if I had to do without electricity today, I would be ill-prepared and likely grouse a lot, but I think my family and I could survive. We’re all heartier than we think we are …

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                    • LMAO! Why am I not surprised? High Five my friend. 😀 I know it’s old fashioned but I keep nagging the Offspring about having survival skills. Not like hunting etc, but simple things like knowing how to cook healthy meals from scratch. I’m enormously proud to say that the Offspring has taken to gardening like a duck to water. 😀

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                    • Same here! I am often on my daughter and granddaughter not to waste food, not to throw things away, and to learn to ‘make do’ with what we have. I’m afraid, though, that when it comes to setting an example, I sometimes fail. 😳

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                    • lol – I used to throw food out too, but then money got tight. Then Covid happened and I could no longer nip down to the supermarket when we ran out. Now I turn myself inside out to use up everything I buy.
                      I’ve never done so much cooking in my life…or enjoyed it less. But we eat well and that’s all that counts. 🙂

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                    • Me too! I was in the habit of nipping off to the supermarket, practically right across the street, multiple times in a week. Now, I plan my menus carefully and shop only once a week. I’ve been using the pickup service, in part due to Covid and in part to my own heart problems which have robbed me of my energy. And, we eat leftovers at least twice a week, sometimes 3 times!

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                    • Me too, me too! I admit I miss being able to decide what to cook on the basis of what nice something I find at the supermarket, but…I’m so much less wasteful now. And yes, leftovers have become our friends. We usually eat leftovers for lunch as the standard ‘lunch’ type things are now either hard to get [supply issues] or too expensive [like nice ham].
                      The other thing I love doing with leftovers is using them as the base for a new meal – e.g. plain steamed rice for fried rice, or leftover roast chicken with plum sauce and cucumbers in Peking Chook. 😀

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                    • Yes, but we’re saving money this way! Hmmmm … we eat far more rice than potatoes or other staple sides, and I can usually turn it into something else, even if it’s only to add some scallions, mushrooms and almonds. Most meat, such as a pot roast or whole chicken, gets turned into soup the next day using whatever veggies are at hand. I’ll have to try your Peking Chook … sounds good!

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        • True, but even at a more basic level … women are able to work in any field, and are not limited such as women in third world countries. We can choose where to shop and what to buy. We do, unless that all changes soon, have a right to participate in government by voting. We can write these blogs criticizing politicians we feel are corrupt and the police don’t show up at our door to haul us to jail. Sometimes I think that people in this country take their freedoms for granted and forget that in MOST of the 192 or so countries on the globe, most have a much lower level of freedom than we do.

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  4. I could rant. I have been ranting for days. But our Prime Minister finally took “some” action today and declared a “limited state of emergency” to help end the occupations. The AMBASSADOR BRIDGE has been reopened–for now–and the occupation of Ottawa has been cordoned off. Arrests are being made, healthy fines are been given out (big deal, they will never be paid!) and the police presence has been bolstered by the RCMP. IT ONLY TOOK TWO WEEKS TO MAKE THIS MOVE! I hope you can hear the sarcasm in my typing!!!!!
    But here in Alberta, our mini-Trump Premier, is on the truckers’ side, no matter what he tries to tell us. But some mounties were added to the force at the Coutts’ border crossing, and some arrests were made. OVER A DOZEN LONG RIFLES, a goodly number of handguns, and 1000s of rounds of ammo were confiscated from truckers at the crossing. WHAT WERE THEY GOING TO USE THOSE FOR! To protect themselves? From whom? NO! THEY WERE PLANNING TO MAKE WAR!
    And they call their protest a peaceful one. And out Premier is upset! The Fed’s are going too far, he tells us. In a recent poll 20% of respondents were for the truckers. 20% had no opinion. 60% OF ALBERTANS WANT THE BLOCKADERS FORCED OUT! But our so-called leader wants them left alone. HE IS F’ING OUT OF TOUCH WITH WE THE PEOPLE! And he does not give a horse’s ass what his voters think!

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    • Yet another display by the “populist” movement to prove that … that … what are they trying to prove, exactly? Their message is blurred by the disruption and chaos they have caused, but the message seems to be … that one person’s “rights” are more important than the greater good of the entire nation.

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      • Pretty much. They don’t care about any but themselves. They want the freedom for their children to die of something they cannot understand. Child abuse at its worst.
        Instant news just told us the last truth has pulled out of Coutts border crossing. They said more arrests were made, but not how many.

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          • Most will get pats on the patutie! “Do it better next time!” But of the ones with the weapons, four have been charged with possession of illegal firearms with intent to commit murder, and two have been charged with attempted murder. Not sure of the circumstances, but if they get slaps on the wrists, the next protests will be a lot wilder.
            Jill, did you get the pictures of the weapons and things Gail sent you on Fb.

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            • Keep me posted on those who were actually charged with serious crimes … I’ll be curious to see the outcome! No, I didn’t get anything from Gail on Facebook!!! I just double-checked, for I don’t get on Facebook often, but do get notifications when someone messages me. When did she send it?

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              • Last night. It was a picture of the confiscated weapons, body armour, and some of the ammo. If you have already seen it, she won’t resend it.
                Yes to the rest IF they announce it to us. Not knowing any names, I wouldn’t know how to follow the cases in court.

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                • No, I checked again just now and I didn’t receive it, haven’t seen it, so if she would re-send it I would greatly appreciate it! I’m sure it will likely be headline news there, but maybe here as well.

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                  • It was headline news here Tuesday. Four men were arrested and charged with intent to commit murder. They said on their dark Web sites they were going to kill mounts. Another 8 or 9, depending who is talking, were arrested and charged with possession of illegal weapons and suchlike things. I think that is why the blockaders left so rapidly. They were not there to start a war. But some wanted nothing less.

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                    • Not to excuse it, but that was how they were brought up, for the most part. “Spare the rod and spoil the child!” was a line often quoted by the preachers in church when I was a child.

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                    • Violence solves nothing, and for the most part only breeds more violence. Too many people think violence is the only solution to a “PERCEIVED” a t of aggression or insult. We will never succeed in eliminating it as long as we use authoritarian methods. We need to do it by role-modelling compassion and peace, even though to a violent person this looks like weakness. Love can win out in the end, but in my mind, ONLY IF IT IS GENUINE!

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                    • I wish it were so simple as those of us with consciences setting an example, being a role model, but those on the opposite end of the spectrum have hate embedded so deeply into their being, perhaps in their DNA, that it will be impossible, I think, to ever overcome.

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                    • Unfortunately the instigators are already planning another convoy, or so the media tells us. Up here in my area the red necks and Mennonites are joining together to fund anyone who wants to join the next convoy. This is a match made in hell.

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                    • Oh lovely … they didn’t learn by the police arresting so many of them? No, I guess they didn’t, just like those who participated in the events of January 6th here haven’t learned but instead are already planning their next coup attempt. People! Sigh.

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                    • Not just people. Certain people. People who want to bring down our society in the name of what they think they can call freedom. Their “freedom” is our prison. But that is what they want, so…

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    • RG, i empathize with ur trucker frustrations… the good news – this trucker convoy will not last past March 1st. Ontario province has already capitulated and will be dropping all vaccine mandates, masks, passports by March 1st.
      If this is the case and other provinces follow suit, then truckers will have no reason to continue protesting, clogging up the roads, honking horns… ah the joys of politics.

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  5. Hi Jill, it seems the truckers convoy has served it’s purpose. Premier Doug Ford representing the province of Ontario Canada has just announced the end of vaccine passports, vaccinations, lifting of all restrictions by March 1st. Wearing masks is up to the individual and will not be required indoors or outdoors.
    Most gov’ts around the world are acknowledging the end of this pandemic is nigh. I guess time will tell if their decision is correct, or perhaps better to be cautious and keep the mandates and restrictions in place for the time being.
    I do know that politicians care mostly about keeping their power, their chance for re-election, and will bow to public demand if the issue makes them politically unpopular. We know politicians don’t really care about right or wrong, making tough decisions, doing what’s best for the ppl.
    At this point we all have to fend for ourselves, if ur vaccinated then ur safe, those who choose not to will have to live with their decision.
    Great song by Janice Joplin! ❤

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    • All one has to do is look at the death toll over the past couple of weeks to know that mask and vaccine mandates SHOULD remain in place, but leaders of states and nations are being bullied into lifting the mandates. Yep, time will tell. For my part, I am fully vaccinated and still wear a mask on the rare occasions that I leave my house, which is no more than once a week to pick up my grocery order. And you know what? I don’t mind staying home, doing my part to keep my family and friends safe. It just feels like the right thing to do.

      Glad you liked the song!!!

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      • I’m sorry many elderly members of society have become 2nd class citizens. Majority of seniors like you tend to err on side of caution and choose to self isolate, sequester in place. That can get boring & very lonely esp. for those without family. I can’t wait for this pandemic to be officially over so life returns to normal, we are seeing early signs of recovery as Omicron is rather mild and less deadly, hopefully this trend continues.

        Jill, it seems we’re getting mixed messages from our leaders regarding severity of Covid. According to CNN:
        In recent weeks, Democrat-led municipalities and states have started to drop COVID-19-related mandates.
        On Monday, Washington, D.C. moved to drop its COVID-19 vaccine mandate to enter certain businesses, becoming one of the first areas in the United States with a vaccine passport system to do so. New York City, Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia, and Chicago are still implementing a vaccine passport system.
        “COVID is not as deadly as it was,” Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser said Monday, noting a sharp decline in infections and hospitalizations. The city also dropped its indoor mask mandates, but it will keep the policy intact for school children—a move that has drawn ire across the country.

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  6. ‘Whose Freedom – Yours Or Ours???’ is a very good question but the answers can be disappointing and infuriating. There are way too many of the “me first” and/or “only me” that feel their personal freedom is not to be challenged or even worse, be made unlawful. “Everyone prefers freedom. Fair person requires it for everybody, unfair person requires it for himself only.” – Karl Ludwig Borne, German-Jewish political writer (1786 – 1837). WHAK!! Thank-you!

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    • Yes indeed, there are far too many selfish, unthinking & uncaring people, and these days they are encouraged by the Republican politicos, told that their personal freedom matters most. I’m with Karl Ludwig Borne on that one … but I seem to be in a shrinking minority these days. WHAK!!!

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  8. Rand Paul would fit right in with our Saskatchewan politicians. Also – Who would compare taking a stand against slavery to revolting against government for imposing a few health mandates in the midst of a global pandemic? 😔

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  9. The people of Kentucky deserve what they get Jill. They keep electing Rand Paul the jerk. I guess they think he’s a champion for their ‘freedom.’ Oy Vey

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    • I think that to some extent, some of the oldsters remember and still respect his father and thus he’s been riding Ron Paul’s coattails. Plus, remember how many times Kentuckians have voted for Mitchie McConnell!!! Sigh.

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        • Yeah, but the trouble is we ALL pay the price. That’s what people seem to forget, that a member of Congress truly represents ALL the people in every state, not just their own constituency. So, when one is corrupt or makes really lousy decisions (yes, I’m looking at Joe Manchin at the moment) then we all pay the price. Sigh.

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          • That is a sad fact Jill. In many cases, all they care about is themselves. How to win, and how to keep power. That is what drives so many of them. Back in the day, it used to be seen as somewhat honorable to serve. Not so much these days, although there are some damn good people who do serve for all the right reasons. I wish there were more of them.

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