The End Of “Liberty and Justice for All”

Yesterday, the United States Supreme Court voted to take away a substantial portion of the rights of women when they voted in private to strike down the 1973 landmark Roe v. Wade decision.  We all saw it coming, but I think we all had our fingers tightly crossed that the Court wouldn’t opt to go down this perilous path.  That hope is gone.  What’s next?  Will we lose our right to “equal pay for equal work”?  Will our voting rights be further restricted (working women are already among the groups for whom voting has been made significantly more difficult)?  Will the Court ultimately also strike down Obergefell v Hodges and take away the rights of same-sex couples to marry?  Just how far is this ignominious Supreme Court willing to push We the People?  And perhaps the bigger question is … how far will we allow them to push us before we push back?  It’s only a matter of time, my friends … only a matter of time.

One line of Justice Samuel Alito’s draft of the decision reads …

“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start …”

Ah yes … anything that allows a woman to have a degree of control over the path her life takes must be considered ‘egregious’, for we all know that Alito and his ilk still believe women to be the inferior gender, unable or incapable of rational thought, of logical decision-making even when it comes to her own body.

My suggestion to all the women in this nation is unless you actively want to get pregnant, make your guys have a vasectomy, else lock the bedroom door and tell him to sleep on the sofa.  Yes, I am serious!  Sex might be fun for both parties, but then we women are left to pay the price for the rest of our lives!

And don’t let those pseudo-Christian evangelicals who fought so hard to make this happen fool you with their “right to life” spiel!  It’s a damn lie.  They claim they are concerned because the fetus might have a chance to become a living, breathing human being.  But you know what happens once the woman gives birth to that little human being?  Those “right-to-life” people disappear.  The mother needs financial help because the sire has disappeared, but where are the “right-to-lifers”?  They bitch and moan about people on welfare and how a few of their measly tax dollars are helping to support single mothers AND those children they were so concerned about back when they were a fetus!  Where is their concern for those little living, breathing human beings now?

And when that little child grows up, graduates from high school with good grades, and wishes to go to college … where are the “right-to-life” folk?  They are busy complaining that some of their tax dollars might go to help pay for his/her education!

Meanwhile, back on the ranch, the sire has moved on, has a continuing prescription for Viagra so that he can go impregnate still more women without accepting either responsibility or consequence.  And the mother?  Well, she has been working two, sometimes three minimum-wage jobs to try to provide the best possible life for that child and has had zero opportunity to improve her own lot in life.

Or maybe, since mom was so busy trying to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table, the youngster didn’t have enough parental supervision, fell in with the wrong crowd, got into drugs and either died of an overdose or else ended up in prison.  Right to life, did you say?  Define life?  Is it simply breathing and having a heartbeat, or is there something about ‘quality of life’?

Or consider the very likely alternative in some cases … back alley abortions will resume and I’d buy stock in wire coat hangers today, for no doubt there will be a run on them soon.  Women will die or be permanently damaged … what was that about “right to life”?

This decision by the Court is the last bit of evidence we needed that the Court has been taken over by partisans … right-wing partisans to be specific.  The three Justices who were appointed under the previous administration were cleverly chosen for both their bigotry and their relative youth, meaning each of the three could conceivably serve for several decades.  Although I have not been in favour of it in the past, I think the time has come to expand the Supreme Court, to level the playing field, to ensure a return to JUSTICE instead of a pandering to the religious fanatics and bigots in the nation.

As it stands now, “Liberty and Justice” for all is a farce … liberty and justice are only for white, straight males.  R.I.P. America … it was nice knowing you, however briefly.

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  1. From Heather Cox Richardson.

    The world has changed since the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade in 1973. Levi Strauss noted that today, 58% of its workforce is female. And as Rebecca Solnit pointed out in The Guardian, the various groups now under attack form a broad coalition. “It doesn’t really matter if they’re coming for you, because they’re coming for us,” she wrote. And “[u]s these days means pretty much everyone who’s not a straight white Christian man with rightwing politics.”

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    • Yep, spot-on. They want this to be a straight, white, Christian, male-dominated society and they are willing to return us to a state of subservience to have their way. But … I’ve got news for them … we will fight to the death for our rights, our freedoms, our equality.

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  2. The evil has begun. Beeing honest the decision is in congruence with the Right of Liberty in the USA. Every particular state must have their own independence. Nobody had thought that a president would fill up the Supreme Court with most of conservative judges. ;-( xx Michael

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  3. This is always fun (I actually mean that):

    C-SPAN: U.S. Supreme Court Oral Argument: Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization · Streamed 5 months ago

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  4. There’s a nifty sliding bar with pictures of particular people at the top of this article.

    https://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-justices-showed-biden-022428054.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJFbIDY32f38uHbsaVu4JcS3JNrzaxRrGATzBZiaDA-FzXqhcSmdtpMfHJxst4cSlqTlsXmet7jXtNeyh-zNB3El14Kk0DmZhs1wdz0y5_PgLe_43VIJdBb6nOY-J8I0So3vj5NpMTXCVcTMT554y38U0zDuRYsEOVnwFcipiujn

    Justices Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett and Chief Justice John Roberts were at the Capitol for the president’s speech. It’s not unusual for justices to skip the event — which Roberts himself has called a partisan “pep rally.”

    Just four justices attended former President Donald Trump’s 2019 State of the Union address.

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    • That Kavanaugh & Barrett attended surprised me, but … where was Sotomayer??? The Supreme Court is supposed to be non-partisan, but it isn’t, and frankly I don’t think it’s quite possible for it to be in this day of extreme partisan politics. ‘Twould have been appropriate if NONE showed up for Trump’s SOTU, but I did love what Nancy Pelosi did!

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      • I would guess that it was something about Sotomayer’s health (pre-existing condition). There was a story in the news about her participating in oral arguments remotely.

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  5. It’s no surprise (to me) that your post is a popular one which prompted lots of comments! So many times I think of Hugh and what he would be saying – the various issues about books, maths, DISNEY, etc – and of course this. We are witnessing our country spiraling down the drain – or getting sucked into the vortex of a black hole.

    Your header image prompted me to do an ‘exercise’ i sometimes do with photos of people I am undecided about. Cover all of the face except for the mouth….

    Sometimes the results are as expected – false and fake.. but sometimes it’s a big scary – malevolent perhaps. every now and then, ‘genuine.’

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    • Thank you, Lisa! I find that the posts that gain the most views & comments are those written in the heat of the moment, straight from the heart and with passion. Yes, our friend Hugh would have many topics on which to opine had he lived to do so, and I sometimes wonder what he would have to say about the state of our nation today.

      That’s an interesting exercise … I tried it and you’re right … they say the eyes are the window to the soul, but the mouth sometimes sings a different tune than the eyes, doesn’t it? I’ll find myself doing that from time to time now!

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    • I’ve never heard of anyone wanting to make guns illegal in any state. But I have heard that the majority of people, including gun owners, want background checks done and restrictions on felons and the underage from owning guns.

      Neither will ever be stopped.

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      • Actually, if it were possible, I would be all for making guns illegal nationwide, but we all know what a fiasco trying to accomplish that would be! But, as you say, Mary, the majority of people, including gun owners, DO want stricter regulations on all guns, but the big money corporations, the arms industry, has bought and paid for members of Congress to quickly dispose of any such legislation. Sigh.

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  6. I don’t think the USSC appreciates how much a threat this decision is to their own authority. Already, states are lining up to say that abortion will still be available regardless of the ruling: NY, NJ and CA are out in front on this. How long before states say they will disregard other USSC decisions?

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    • I was chuffed to see the governors of some states promising that abortion would be available, including the ones you mention as well as Michigan. However, unfortunately there are far more states who have already passed or are in the process of crafting legislation making it a crime. Worse yet, some states will actually pay informers for telling if someone has gone out of state to have an abortion!

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          • For some reason, the right doesn’t seem to understand the implications of what they are seeking. Belatedly, Biden is reposition the issue as “right to privacy”, which I think is both apt and a stronger legal position. Whether that will work or not, it may be late to affect this decision. By the way, if Alito is going to make a case out of wording missing from the Constitution, where is there anything in the document about treating a corporation as a person? There are a lot of topics not mentioned.

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            • I think the people who vote Republican either are more ignorant than any generation before them, else they are tired of democracy and are hoping for the nation to become a religious autocracy. Either way, they are opening the doors for a very dark future if they aren’t stopped. Ahhhhh … you make a good point about Citizens United v FEC and it’s outcome. Nowhere does that exist in the original document or in any amendment. Hmmmm … I foresee that this will open the doors for reversing such things as Obergefell, Brown, and Griswold, but perhaps it should also open doors that they may not wish to see opened, like Citizens United. Thanks for giving me some food for thought there!

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  7. This is another in the rather obvious steps of the New Right to haul back the USA to another era and wipe out the progress made over decades. Voting Rights, History of Slavery and Discrimination, Women’s Rights, LGBT status and so on.
    If anyone thinks none of this involves them, personally…. Well wait until someone comes to your door, and starts to tell you, it has been noticed your have Amazon Deliveries and did you know they support abortion……and so on.
    They will be on your case.
    Or you will find yourself self-censoring in speech and action because ‘You’ …’Don’t want any trouble’…..
    One way or another ‘They’ will try and come for you.

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  8. Ay long last people are being forced to see that the Supreme Court has nothing to do with Justice. As it currently stands it is a vehicle intended to play ten pin bowling with the laws of the land, knocking them all out to suit the Republican Minority. I said a long time ago that the Court should be loaded with more judges to overcome the current majority and also certain judges should be dismissed as unsuitable and lacking the correct qualifications. Cavanaugh should already have gone as should a certain judge whose wife is heavily involved with Trump politics.
    Now the realities strike home the Democrats must learn too fight the same way the Republican do and beat them at their own game.

    Cwtch

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    • Yep, sadly it appears that 5 of the 9 justices are compromised, perhaps have been bought lock, stock, and barrel by the wealthy in the GOP. I now fully agree with what you said a year or more ago, that President Biden should expand the Court … it is the only hope we have for the future of this nation. Kavanaugh and Barrett should both be gone, for neither has the basic qualifications to sit on the Court, but … hey, the good ol’ boys in the Senate pushed those confirmations right on through for their buddy Trump, eh? Sigh.

      I still say, though, that we cannot lower ourselves to their standard, cannot engage in a mud fight, and violence is never the answer. I wish I knew what the answer IS, but I still don’t think it’s fighting dirty like the GOP is doing. Sigh.

      Cwtch

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  9. I still believe in MY BODY, MY CHOICE! If the courts can strike down mask and vaccine mandates due to infringement of personal and sovereign rights, then the same must apply to abortion!
    It makes no sense to repeal Roe v Wade, women have no rights to their own bodies? This ruling to overturn abortion rights is antithetical to freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution.
    Besides, big pharma has new generation of pills that can induce abortion as late as the third trimester. So this overreach by S.C. justices have no bearing in the real world. Abortion will just go underground, drugs are plentiful when u know where to look.

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    • I wish I knew, my friend. 😔 Apparently, the Republican Party has found a way of forcing their will, even though they are in the minority. I’m beginning to sense that this Supreme Court decision is but one piece of a much larger puzzle they are putting together. I wish … I wish I lived almost anywhere but here.

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  10. I am very confused… when did the Supreme Court start making and implementing Federal Law and amendments to our sacred Constitution? What has happened to Congress and the representatives WE have placed there by OUR vote to represent US? Where is OUR vote represented on this???

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    • It is the duty of the Supreme Court to interpret the law as it relates to the Constitution, and unlike our elected officials, the Justices do not serve at our pleasure, they are not elected. They are appointed by presidents and serve for life unless they are removed for cause. Congress, on the other hand, could certainly pass legislation that would override all the restrictive state laws on abortion, but with the current divisiveness in Congress, and the negligible majority in the Senate (not to mention the filibuster) it would never get off the launching pad. Neither branch seems to have any interest in serving We the People any more, but rather in pandering to those who support their candidacies, ie., the pseudo Christian evangelical community and the wealthy corporations and their owners.

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  11. help me understand how being upset about this and wanting the government to stay out of this issue, which is clearly medical related, squares with the notion that you and most of your readers supported the same government mandating vaccines? aren’t both issues about bodily autonomy? what am I missing? And don’t act like returning the issue to be one of states rights tramples on the rights of women because it doesn’t.
    Now if someone wants an abortion, that’s not my business and I really don’t care, just like it’s not my business whether someone is vaccinated from a virus that kills only .5% of the population and that’s a liberal estimate.
    Are you okay with the leaking of the opinion, if that really happened? It seems that protesters and the leaked information came about pretty close together which means that this can’t be organic. Think about it.
    I know that I’ve been banned from your blog but you see the comment even if you don’t approve it for your audience so I know you read what I write, unless you’ve got automation deleting my comments.
    If you want to have a dialog, I’m not hard to find, your research skills aren’t that poor.

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    • Scott … I believe you and I have had this discussion before and I explained it then. Wearing a mask and getting a vaccine saves the lives of others — your family, your coworkers, your neighbors, the people you pass by in the grocery store. Getting an abortion is a very personal choice … if I get an abortion, it doesn’t affect you or my neighbors in the least. If I get an abortion it will affect me … only me. That fetus is not yet and might never become a person. It is my right.

      And Scott … the only reason I don’t post most of your comments is because you use them to personally attack me, as you did on Twitter a couple of weeks ago. I really don’t need that sort of hatred that you spew at me. If you want to be friends again, you know how to email me.

      Readers? Anybody care to respond more fully to Scott?

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      • Ha not easy when you are dealing with someone with anger issues who’d rather attack than discuss. It’s usually fruitless, Jill…

        The laws that will be under pressure coming up are (1)gay marriage, which hurts nothing and no one,(2) interracial marriage which hurts nothing and no one. (3) restrictions on healthcare designed against immigrants, hurts many people(4) restrictions on what historical information of the past that is taught in school hurts all of us in keeping us stupid and disables us from the abilities to fix the future, (5) protecting the environment including our food supplies and clean water hurts all of us, (6) forcing only Christianity on all of us hurts non Christians and nonbelievers in denying people’s freedom to believe and worship or not, how they want, (7)and being born a certain race to be discriminated against hurts us all because any one of us could be the disfavored race of the moment and (8) the abortion issue, which could be argued on both sides of the issue even outside of religion.

        That to me, separates it from the rest, as the others are all clear cut, but they ALL will be attacked by the right wingers and the biased Supreme Court.

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        • You’re right, Mary … Scott is speaking from anger rather than logic, though I don’t know why, for he wasn’t like this once upon a time. We were once good friends … or so I thought.

          Thanks, my friend, for your well-reasoned response … I fully agree with you!

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    • It seems that protesters and the leaked information came about pretty close together which means that this can’t be organic.

      I’m not sure what you are suggesting.

      I heard about the leaked information several hours before there were any protests. This is a hot button issue, so people react quickly once the information begins to get out.

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  12. The PlanB pill [or pills] is not considered to be abortion legally speaking — so I think that’s not part of the situation and women will still be able to get that even if this opinion is eventually published (which would, then, put it into effect).

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  13. I have been singing this same song for over thirty years, Jill. Let me take this one step further. These are the very same people who will judge single unwed mothers. When she can’t provide properly for that child and it grows up confused, angry, hungry and lost becoming what ‘they’ consider a ‘thug’ or criminal, all their ‘right to life’ conviction goes out the window when they condone gunning down these children in the street under the pretense of protecting the good citizens of the good ole US of fucking A! Sorry for the cursing but this one is beyond insanity for me. Women have suffered for centuries by the hand of male ego and vain female pandering to those males. I have to stop now. Just. 🤬😩🤐

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    • Oh heck yes! They judge any who are not just like them, but do they do anything to help that poor unwed mother trying to keep a roof over hers and her kid’s heads? Nope. They sit with their self-sanctimonious smirks, believing that they are somehow ‘better’ than the rest of us. I often say that someday there will come an event that will level the playing field, where all the wealth, all the religion in the world will be useless and the only thing of value will be knowledge and hard work. It won’t make them care about those of us less fortunate, and it won’t make them understand how very wrong they have been, but nonetheless they will get their comeuppance, their just rewards. No worries about the cursing … you’d be shocked by how much of it I’ve been doing over the last few days … I even made myself blush a few times! Hang in, my friend. Hugs.

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      • I’m afraid the only ‘level field’ with those in power would be if the entire system went down. No banks, no internet, no audience. They wouldn’t be able to make it if all they had to do was survive by their wit and wisdom.

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        • That’s exactly what I’m talking about. No electricity anywhere. Perhaps as a result of an EMP, perhaps nuclear, but no supermarkets, no banks, money has zero value because there is no place to spend it, nothing to spend it on.

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  16. This is one paragraph from Heather Cox Richardson today

    “And so here we are. A minority, placed in control of the U.S. Supreme Court by a president who received a minority of the popular vote and then, when he lost reelection, tried to overturn our democracy, is explicitly taking away a constitutional right that has been protected for fifty years. Its attack on federal protection of civil rights applies not just to abortion, but to all the protections put in place since World War II: the right to use birth control, marry whomever you wish, live in desegregated spaces, and so on.”

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  17. The leaking of this ruling is nothing about supporting pro life; this is codification of a pro-birth trend. While not a surprise, it is quite the stunning outcome even in this day and age of pious hypocrisy by the Republican Party. Now they’ll e emboldened to permanently and with impunity, occupy and control our private parts. So much for keeping the government off our backs. It seems that when it comes to culture wars where control of women’s reproductive rights & equal opportunity seem to be a merely a concept to be regulated by the government and no longer a personal right. Goodbye freedom, my heart goes out to women living in at least 26 states that posed to embrace this latest development.

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    • As if the planet needs more humans! We are already over-populated and in some places there are already food and water scarcities, sure to spread even to the U.S. in the coming years. Oh yeah, let’s add more humans so that they can put more CO2 into the atmosphere and hasten the demise of nearly every species on the planet. Sigh.

      It seems to me that whether we’re talking about women’s rights, LGBTQ rights, civil rights, education, books, healthcare or any myriad of topics, the Republican Party is the party of “NO”. If it helps people, helps secure a future, then their answer is “NO”.

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  18. I have a different question, kind of related, but not exactly: DOES NO STILL MEAN NO? If they can take away women’s rights to control what comes out of your bodies, How long before they try to conttol what goes into your bodies? Remember that “No Women’s Work” rebellion in the 70s, which included No Sex. It was very effective then. I see no reason why it should not be very effective right now!

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    • Well already the Texas anti abortion law says rape isn’t a reason for abortion, so I think we’ve passed that point already. Of course if any of these republican politicians have a daughter who needs an abortion, they’ll just fly them overseas for one. This used to go on all the time in Ireland. We even used the term “getting the boat” to mean going to England for an abortion.

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      • Texans will be able to just cross the borders, as Mexico is now allowing abortions. Canada, too, is not far away, much closer than Europe, and with “white doctors” for the racist assholes who won’t let brown hands touch their lily-white daughters.

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        • True, but to do either requires something that many women don’t have: MONEY! The wealthy will still have access to safe, secure abortions, but those who really need them will not.

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      • But all the other women in America should be. Women have a certain power they may not want, but they have it nonetheless. And NOW is the time to use it again. I don’t remember exactly the year it was last used, but the 50th anniversary should be coming up! It’s time to celebrate. A lot of men will be standing with them!

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      • Yesterday, I immediately thought Clarence’s wife wouldn’t be against this development. Today, I heard somone entertaining a theory his wife might be the leaker. It is drawing attention away from her own corruption along with the fact he should be recusing himself from some subject matter.

        Maybe Amy’s husband should withhold sex. Perhaps Kavanaugh’s wife, though, could decide she likes beer better than him.

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        • Clarification: she wouldn’t be motivated to withhold for this reason — as in she is in favor of the development that the 1973 decision will be overturned.

          And: Beer, not Brett!

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        • I doubt that his wife was the leaker … not that I’d put it past her, but I just doubt she’d bother with it, for there’s nothing to be gained from her perspective.

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          • It might not benefit her (Ginni/Virginia); even though people were speaking of her derisively (due to her part in or sympathy with the insurrection) in the news ( and of inappropriate special interest with regard to CT himself ), I doubt anything substantive was going to happen to try and rectify the situation.

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    • It depends on the man and the situation, I suppose. But even cases of rape or incest are not excluded from the harsh restrictions in most states, meaning that if a 13-year-old girl is raped by her uncle or father, she will be forced, by law, to carry that baby to term, then either put it up for adoption (not a good option in this country) or spend the next 18 years tied to a baby she never wanted, never should have had. Bah humbug! I think it’s time for Lorena Bobbitt to start teaching women’s self-defense classes! Remember her?

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      • Never forgot her. Every time I hear Lauren Boebert’s name i think first of Lorena Bobbitt. Not exactly sure why! Lorena had balls! Boebert’s got an empty braincase.

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  19. I’m a bit confused over here Jill.
    The BBC news feed says that the first draft to overturn Roe vs Wade has been leaked; an act which itself is unprecedented, so it’s not yet set in stone.
    If this is the case as I read that as someone within the Justice system is looking to sabotage the initial majority of The Supreme Court and thus catch them out before they can make all this formal.
    Either whichway this is not going to go quietly.

    You are spot on about those Loudest of the Right-To-Life evangelicals. This was why some Catholic groups strong on Catholic Social Teaching began to distance from them on finding out the Evangelicals who were making all the noise cared ‘naff’ all about the babies on being born.

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    • https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/trending/roe-v-wade-leaked-opinion-what-is-roe-what-does-it-mean-if-it-is-overturned/JE2WYIVHYFHPPLIGYFLGM5MDCA/.

      ………

      What case is the court ruling on that would overturn Roe?

      The leaked draft opinion concerns a case called Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. In 2018, Mississippi passed a “Gestational Age Act,” which prohibits almost all abortions after 15 weeks. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the only licensed abortion facility in Mississippi, and one of its doctors filed a lawsuit in federal district court challenging the law.

      Eventually, a district court ruled for Jackson Women’s Health, stopping Mississippi from enforcing the gestational age law.

      The state appealed the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court. The document published by Politico was labeled a “1st Draft” of the “Opinion of the Court” in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

      What is a draft opinion?

      A draft opinion from the Supreme Court is a first take on a ruling in a case. Justices hear oral arguments and then have an initial vote on the case. After an initial vote, one justice is assigned to write the majority opinion and creates a draft that lays out the reasons for the decision. The draft is circulated among the other justices for consideration.

      The draft is a reflection of an initial vote. Those votes can change. Language in the draft can change. A court ruling is final only when it is published by the court.

      Are draft opinions often leaked?

      Reuters reported that Neal Katyal, a lawyer who regularly argues before the court, said if the report was accurate, it would be “the first major leak from the Supreme Court ever.”


      ……..

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        • Someone indicated that [Niel Katyal] an outstanding former Solicitor General for the Supreme Court was wrong; I had to look it up. No… not wrong. But the added information is fascinating. (I did learn some of it at a showing of Roe Versus Wade (or some form of spelling that out).

          https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096097236/roe-wade-original-ruling-leak

          Excerpt: Leaks of any kind are rare at the Supreme Court, and Totenberg says there hasn’t been such a massive breach in modern history. She called it a “bomb at the court” that undermines everything the body stands for internally and institutionally…”

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          • Thank you Marleen for that link.
            What strikes me as interesting was the events surrounding Hammond passed into Supreme Court administration’s what could be called folk lore as a a warning. Yet someone, somewhere decided to risk it.
            Another indication of the tensions running high within various strata of the USA.

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      • In this particular case, I think we all understand that this ‘draft’ will become final in June. And no, while leaks are rare, this is not the first ever, and in fact there was a leak during the original Roe case in ’73. Funny that some are making a bigger deal over the leak than over the ruling.

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        • I think the vote is likely to remain. It’s possible the write-up could change. It’s also possible the vote could change based on the verbiage and logic (or lack of logic therein) not changing. At first, we didn’t really know if the leaked thing was really the first draft/a real draft from the Court. Now, we’re pretty sure. Some people who lean right actually have principles; we shall see if anyone is willing to stand on the importance of principled decisions — principles in the sense of depth that goes beyond “sides.”

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          • I’m given to understand that Chief Justice John Roberts wasn’t completely comfortable with the decision, so it’s likely some wording may be altered. Even if Roberts votes against it, it will still pass, thanks to the 5 bigots on the bench. Sigh.

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            • I’m thinking somone else, in addition to Roberts, might have a recognizable conscience. Roberts might be quicker to see the big picture.

              The justices didn’t take their initial vote based on what is written in this first draft. Having to look, now, at what the rationale would be…

              I’m not saying they wouldn’t still hope for another opportunity to overturn Roe v Wade. There will be plenty of cases.

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    • The ruling is still in draft, likely to be made final in June, but there is no doubt that while it could be altered, it will stand as is, with only some possible revisions of language or verbiage. Today, Chief Justice Roberts is furious about the leaker and some are calling for his/her head on a pike! Roberts said the leak was ‘egregious’, but to me, the ruling and the fact that it was being withheld from the public is what’s egregious!

      Indeed so! And another thing on that “right to life” bunch … the majority of them are pro-death-penalty. What??? They protect a fetus no bigger than my pinkie nail, but they would willingly execute a human being who may later be proven to have been innocent of the crime of which he was accused? How is that “pro-life”???

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  20. Even legal, abortion was so expensive & becoming more expensive year by year, that it was out of reach for many women. With the passage of the Hyde Amendment in 1976 (which was supported by Joe Biden, one of the many reasons I have never liked the man), which outlawed the used of Medicaid funds for obtaining an abortion at ANY point in a woman’s pregnancy, most lower-income women were unable to participate fully in their constitutional rights anyway. This has been a long time coming & nobody but nobody should be surprised.

    Your outrage is amusing but get real already. When everyone was dancing at the disco in the late 70s & early 80s, the opposition was organizing & getting their shit together. They have over forty years of political activism. They have FOX news, for chrissake. Our so-called “liberal” media is so fucking right-wing it’s almost as faux as FOX.

    Our so-called “liberty & justice” was gone a long time ago. Where have you been all these years?

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      • They certainly aren’t as unbiased as they should be, and they give far too much attention to the idiots like the former guy, who should have faded into oblivioun by now, but I don’t consider them right-wing, per se. They still go by the old “If it bleeds, it leads”, and they struggle for profit these days, with the wide variety of social media and the near-death of print media.

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    • Funny also how that right to live ends at birth. Surely if they were true to their religious belief’s they’d be properly funding schools and scholarships, so those on low income could go to university, providing housing and free childcare, etc. Instead the GOP has repeatedly cut such measures. While evangelicals instead give money to their pastors to buy private jets, mega churches or that silly Noah’s arch place.

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    • You are so right about that! In some states, even if the woman’s life is in danger, she will not be able to have an abortion legally. What’s next? Will they take our right for equal pay, our right to vote, or even our right to divorce our husband? Sigh.

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        • Hmmmm … could I ask you to elaborate on this one? I know that all 50 states recognize and allow no-fault divorce, so I’m a bit confused about what you said. Sorry … but please give me a bit more info on this?

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          • Some states, such as where I was living when I got divorced, have a (for lack of a better word) formula; if the other party to the divorce doesn’t agree about anything, there’s a set way to handle the outcome. You could work out an agreement together, or the state will just do something. In other states, you can’t have the divorce until both sides agree to their marching orders going forward. My ex-sister-in-law was trying to get a divorce, but her husband wouldn’t agree to anything. Years went by. She got into a relationship with somone else. She asked me to meet him. I didn’t know about divorce law at the time; I told her I’d be glad to meet him after she decided what she was doing about her other relationship. But it wasn’t about her deciding. I don’t know why she didn’t fill me in. I’m one of the few people she trusted and to whom she felt close. She ended up pregnant, subsequent to which bone her husband wanted the divorce.

            Then, the state told him he couldn’t have a divorce until after the baby was born. His health insurance would cover the hospital birth. Tee-hee. I wish I had gone ahead and met the guy already. I never did meet him. After she got pregnant, he became a jerk. I have a hood eye, I might’ve been able to warn her. Anyway, maybe not. Later, she met someone else through e-Harmony. They got married and lived happily-ish ever after.

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    • I think the problem is the democrats don’t get it. They keep appealing to the republicans better nature, but they don’t have such a thing. The goal of the republican party is to turn America into an Oligarchic theonomic state. A WASP version of Putin’s Russia (and you can bet Putin’s probably delighted at this, he knows this will weaken America). Any measure the democrats have to take to prevent this, no matter how underhand, is fair game.
      On day one in office Biden should have started investigating all of Trump’s judicial appointees (several have skeletons in their closet) as well as started packing the supreme court with a couple of 20 something card carrying ACLU judges. Trump and all of his allies should have been arrested and offered some sort of deal (throw the GOP under the bus and we go easy on you). They should have prioritised laws to outlaw voter suppression and bring in proportional representation (which would undo GOP gerrymandering). Instead they’ve tried to negotiate with the GOP or try to shame them into doing the right thing. That’s never going to work.

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      • They* should have prioritised laws to outlaw voter suppression and bring in proportional representation (which would undo GOP gerrymandering).

        This speaks directly to some of the wording in the still-unpublished opinion of the Court.

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      • Well … here’s the thing … the Democrats don’t wish to lower themselves to the level the Republicans have gone. They don’t believe that violence and divisiveness are the solution to the problem. They believe in finding common ground and trying to build from there. I am an Independent, not a Democrat or Republican, though I have voted for both in my lifetime, but I lean much more heavily toward the side of Democrats for they are the party that supports helping people and maintaining healthy alliances with other nations. The GOP (Republican Party) was once honourable, but today … they are liars, cheaters, and crooks and I agree with you that Trump and his minions belong in prison, not walking among us stirring up more trouble. However … despite the fact that Republicans are in the minority, they have the louder voice these days.

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    • Many thanks, my friend, for the re-blog!!! Yes, we are rolling backward at a rapid clip and it keeps me awake at night thinking about what’s likely to be next. Overturning Obergefell v Hodges so that same sex couples are no longer allowed to marry? Overturning Brown v Board of Education to return to the days of segregated schools? How much further back will this nation go before people realize they’ve signed away their lives? Sigh.

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  22. Reblogged this on The Voice of the Voiceless and commented:
    Here is a post from my friend, Jill Dennison to further educate on the decision of Roe v. Wade. The pain that is going to happen with this leaked decision is going to haunt us forever. Why do we have to always meddle in the affairs of others? I will never know. Please read Jill’s post. It’s so very important to know what is going on with these back office votes in private, and my heart is just heavy tonight for women.
    In Community,
    Amy

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    • Deliberating in chambers is the way the Court (the Supreme Court) is set up to work. The way it also works is that the vote can change before they publish (a leak isn’t publication).

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      • *sighs* I understand how the court works, Marleen. I also know that Roe v. Wade is something that is being fast-tracked through the process because of Texas, Oklahoma, and the other states that are stealing the rights away from women. This leak is going to be a reality because they [the Supreme Court] are putting it in the hands of the states. They are sick of hearing about it and dealing with it… A leak is a good indication that a decision will upset precedent.

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        • It probably will stand at the current vote. It will be interesting to see if any wording changes… and what the dissenting opinion(s) will say.

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        • You can take it to the bank that since the full opinion has already been written, it isn’t going to change beyond perhaps a few minor details and verbiage. Nope, the 5 ‘conservatives’ on the bench have made it quite clear. Kavanaugh and Barrett shouldn’t even BE on the Court! Neither have the qualifications!!! But yet, they can rule or ruin our lives!

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      • The odds of this one being changed between now and June when the final decision is made public are slim-to-none. They were scared to death of the backlash if We the People found out their decision.

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        • It’s a plus that this is out there before the final decision and concurrent “opinion” (and dissenting). We’re more likely to discuss the details this way than if the decision were to come out first or contemporaneously (as is usual). The decision would come out to Us, publically, sooner or later ( June ) anyway. And a draft isn’t the full or final opinion necessarily. For some reason, the opinion Roe v Wade came with bothered RBG enough that she talked about it out in the open.

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          • There has been some speculation that it was intentionally leaked to try to keep any of the conservative justices from backtracking … rumour has it that Kavanaugh (of all people!) wasn’t comfortable with the ruling and they feared he might hedge. Just speculation by some … I’m inclined to doubt it, but heck … these days, anything’s possible.

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    • Thank you so much for the re-blog!!! The abortion ruling (not yet final, but certain to be so next month) is bad enough in and of itself, but the even bigger issue is the doors it will open. In two years, will they have reversed Obergefell v Hodges, and perhaps even Brown v Board of Education? We came so far … and now we are doing an abrupt 180° turnaround. Sigh. Thanks again, Amy!!!

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      • You’re welcome! We were on the same wavelength last night for sure. As a case law nerd, I am really worried about this leaked document on Roe. Inside of Roe, there’s also the threat to the 14th Amendment’s due process clause with an overturn of the ruling too. People really should be scared of that decision to become final. 😦

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        • Given the level of news coverage and protests today, I suspect people are scared of the decision and angry … more angry than scared. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist (I promise I’m NOT) I think this is just a piece in a much larger puzzle, a puzzle that involves Donald Trump and many others whose goal it is to turn this nation into an oligarchy or an authoritarian regime. Another piece of the puzzle … the Senate’s refusal to pass the two key voting rights acts last year. SIGH.

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          • I actually got called to see if I would be able to come to the capital tonight in Sacramento. I am too far and too broke to make the trip right now. They were asking for activists, and I feel bad I could not answer the call.

            You are definitely making a great point, and I have been one that has been looking at some of the backlash from decisions made before he was voted out of the big man seat. I just hope that something starts happening before he gets his bid in on 2024 in way of criminal and federal charges. I join you in the Big Big Sighs tonight my friend!

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            • I’m so sorry you couldn’t go to Sacramento, but what an honour that they called you! You’re becoming known for your good works, my friend! Keep it up!

              Like you, I am hoping to see Trump indicted and sent to prison where he won’t be able to further damage this nation — at least not directly. However, that hope is growing dimmer by the day. It’s so strange to realize that a 30% minority in this country can control the nation. In my own state, J.D. Vance, running for a senate seat in November, was polling very low … he is an idiot whose only claim to fame is that he wrote one book. Nobody was taking him seriously, until … {drumroll} … the former guy advocated for him and then last night he won the GOP primary. He won by only 30%, wasn’t that far ahead of the other two candidates, but still … here’s a ‘man’ with NO education that would qualify him for a senate seat, NO prior government experience, but he won the damn primary because Trump gave him a thumb-up. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Fortunately, I think the Democratic candidate, Tim Ryan, stands a much better chance, and he won his primary with 70% of the vote. Fingers crossed, amidst my huge sighs.

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              • Bolstering your idea of a [rich] minority getting more and more of a hold to control the country, Vance was supported with millions (over 10) from the same billionaire who supported Trump and who was prominently presented on stage in the speaking lineup right next to Trump at prime time during the Republican National Convention in 2016 — Peter Thiel.

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                • You’re quite right. I read earlier today that Peter Thiel’s donation of some $15 million to Vance’s campaign was the most ever spent by one donor on a candidate for Senate. Add to that Trump’s endorsement and Tucker Carlson’s high praise … really, he should have won by much more than he did, having only won with 32% and the next two candidates following close on his heels. Unfortunately, though the Democratic candidate, Tim Ryan, is a good guy and we will work hard to get his name into the forefront of voters’ minds, the reality is that there are far more Republicans than Democrats in this state, and that is likely to put the highly unqualified J.D. Vance in the Senate next January. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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              • I am really worried that they are not moving fast enough to get him in an orange jumpsuit. Even then, federal prison is like a resort for folks like him.

                We got a battle here in my area for the Congressional seats too. Right now we have Trump’s pony boy, David Valadao, and he has another supporter in there too named Adam Medeiros. He is the friend of my ex-hair guy that ruined my hair while talking about political stances. They all have Trump 2024 on their vehicles, and I am really worried about his chances. Rudy Salas is running for the seat too, and he’s my assembly member in my county/district.

                I pray that we both have the power to keep bad people out of our offices. It’s very conservative heavy where I live, so I just keep spreading the word.

                Fingers crossed for both of our states!

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                • No, they are not moving fast enough, but … worse yet … more and more it looks as if he will never see that orange jumpsuit nor the inside of the prison walls. I strongly suspect that no indictments will come, or if they do, they will be resolved without anything beyond a monetary penalty.

                  Indeed, I think they are in all states, and like you, I hope against all hope that we can keep them out of Congress and even out of the State legislatures! This nation … we are on a collision course with disaster if this keeps up. Imagine an autocrat with minions in every district, protestors of any type immediately carted off to jail. Imagine having you car impounded for having a “Biden/Harris” bumper sticker. Imagine being pulled aside for being overheard criticizing the autocrat or his minions. Sigh. I hope I’m wrong.

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                  • My head has been so full with all of these things, and I think you are pretty close to what is going to happen. I think it is going to get really bad and will happen really quick. I just wrote a very long-winded post about the other parts of the Constitution that will be on the chopping block after Roe. It’s going to be terrible for anyone who is not the traditional white man.

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                    • There are many days of late that I’m glad I am old. It’s too painful watching a once decent nation be devoured and destroyed by bigotry and hatred. Sigh. I must check out your post this evening!!!

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                    • You know I bawled like a baby when Obama and and his first lady left on AF1. My momma is a retrumplican and a hypocrite, and she made fun of me for crying that day. I knew from then on that we were all in big trouble. I wish I could have found my voice sooner.

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                    • Awwwww … I didn’t watch it, didn’t want to cry, as I was sure I would. I also didn’t watch the former guy’s inauguration, for I considered it to be a fraud … still do, for that matter. He lost the election in both 2016 and 2020, and had it not been for Russia’s help, he wouldn’t have gotten into the White House in 2017. Sigh. As an aside, if you haven’t already, you should read Michelle Obama’s book, “Becoming” … well worth the read!

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                    • He most certainly lost, and I am fearing the next bid if he is allowed to run. I will have to look into getting it Michelle’s book 🙂 I am slowly building my library.

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                    • I enjoyed the post with the information about Boston and the First Lady’s trip overseas. I need to catch up again. My babygirl lost her puppy 😦 Things are discombobulated.

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                    • Ohhhhhhhh … I’m so sorry to hear about the puppy! Losing a furry family member is never easy. Give her an extra hug for me!

                      I’m glad you enjoyed the post! I very much admire First Lady Biden … she’s a class act!

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                    • “Arm candy with no purpose” … I like that one! 🤣🤣 Did you read that First Lady Biden is going to be on the cover of Vogue magazine? As were both Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton in their day. It’s said that Melania is in quite a huff about it, asking why she was never on Vogue’s cover. Ha ha … heck, wasn’t being in Playboy enough for her?

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                    • That link works fine … thanks!!! But, if I click on “amyspeaks” at the top of this comment, it still tells me that “algspeaks.wordpress.com is no longer available.
                      The authors have deleted this site.” Strange.

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                    • Oh! I am so glad that you told me. I will have to fix that link then. That’s my old site from when my Dad died and when married to the jerkface.

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                    • Yay! 🙂 Thank you my dear friend! Sorry I am just getting to messages. We had a little memorial for Mocha Cha and gave her a forever resting place here at my sisters. So my baby girl and grandbaby came and hung out with lil ole me yesterday and today 🙂 It was a good day! I hope you had a good day, and I always miss you and our conversations when I am away! Big hugs and love!

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                    • No worries, dear Amy! Some days I try to tackle comments 2 or 3 times a day, but other days it’s late night before I can get to them. Awwww … I bet that was sad, but … she will always be remembered for being such a lovable part of the family. And you got a bonus … two days to hang out with daughter & granddaughter! I know that was fun! Many hugs and much love, dear friend!!!

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                    • I am usually better at keeping up with my blog comments, but with classes starting soon (May 31), I am buttoning up errands and some loose ends. Once summer session starts, I will be swamped with having two classes. I will be exhausted by July 😀

                      It was a good visit with them 🙂 Dessa gets bigger and bigger every time I see her. She’s got that spicy personality that makes everyone laugh.

                      Hugs and loves, Jill ❤

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                    • What classes will you be taking this summer? Yes, you will be exhausted by July, but you’ll also feel good for having accomplished it!

                      I love a kid with a spicy personality! My granddaughter Natasha is much like her mother in that she’s kind and gentle, but she has just enough of my spice! She can be feisty as heck some days!

                      Love and big hugs to you, dear Amy!!!

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                    • I am taking Constitutional Law and Federal, State, and Local Government in the summer session. I will start the paralegal courses in the Fall. It’s very specifically planned for that degree plan 🙂 I am excited to get started in school again though!

                      Same with Dessa lol! She’s just like my daughter 🙂

                      Love and great big hugs, my friend!

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                    • I took 3 semesters of ConLaw and absolutely loved it! Now if only I could remember it all! I’m excited for you, my friend, and especially for the paralegal courses in the fall! And don’t worry … I do realize you’ll have less time to stay in touch, but I’ll be patient and can’t wait to hear how your classes are going! Love ‘n hugs to you, dear friend!

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                    • I am definitely excited that my classes are more focused on my career this time around. I had a few specific courses in my other two degrees, but this program is going to be all of my niche 🙂 Love and hugs, and I cannot wait to share with you how the journey goes 🙂

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          • There’s some cool construction [plus] footage for almost a half hour in here. My bedtime music last night (Wednesday night).

            https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/tall-security-fences-erected-around-supreme-court-after-abortion-opinion-leak

            … the justices might change before a ruling is dealt sometime in the coming months. The leak prompted Chief Justice John Roberts to order an investigation by the marshal of the court. In a statement, the court confirmed the draft that was leaked is “authentic” but stressed it does “not represent a decision by the Court.”
            CLICK HERE {up there} TO READ MORE FROM THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER
            Earlier in the evening, it was reported that Justice Samuel Alito, who authored the opinion, scrapped plans to participate in the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’s judicial conference, which is slated to begin Thursday. A reason for the cancellation was not given by the high court.

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