Election By Vote … Or By Violence?

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At least two things I read yesterday chilled me to the bone.  The first was from a newsletter I receive via email written by Charlie Sykes in The Bulwark.  Here are a few snippets from his piece …

The January 6 Committee has postponed today’s hearing because of the massive Hurricane bearing down on Florida. But we have an idea what we were going to see.

The committee plans to show a video of Trump Whisperer Roger Stone enthusiastically declaring, “Fuck the voting, let’s get right to the violence,” even before the votes were counted in 2020.

“Shoot to kill. See an antifa? Shoot to kill. Fuck ’em. Done with this bullshit.”

The video clips obtained by CNN and were recorded by Danish filmmakers Frederik Marbell and Christoffer Guldbrandsen. In the clips Stone relishes the prospect of bloodshed.

Later that day, as The Post previously reported, Stone seemed to welcome the prospect of clashes with left-wing activists. As an aide spoke of driving trucks into crowds of racial justice protesters, Stone said: “Once there’s no more election, there’s no reason why we can’t mix it up. These people are going to get what they’ve been asking for.”

In one clip, Stone is seen telling MAGA supporters that they should declare victory on election night, no matter what the results showed. “I really do suspect it’ll still be up in the air,” Stone says. “When that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory.”

The second chilling thing I read was from a CBS News report …

“More than 18 months after the rioting at the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob, an estimated 13 million U.S. adults, or 5% of the adult population, agree that force would be justified to restore former President Donald Trump to the White House and an estimated 15 million Americans believe force would be justified to prevent Trump from being prosecuted , should he be indicted for mishandling classified documents, according to a new study from the University of Chicago.” [Emphasis added]

I have written recently about the violence that seems to be becoming the norm in this country, how violence has never solved any problems, and how we simply must learn to think with our brains instead of our guns, fists, knives, etc.  But still, the bloodlust continues.  Why?

Do voices like those of Roger Stone, Donald Trump, and others who encourage violence really reach so far that tens of millions of people buy into their rhetoric?  Or perhaps phrasing it another way, are tens of millions of people really so ignorant as to fall prey to those like Stone, Trump and others?

This propensity for violence is made even more frightening when coupled with the number of guns that are in the hands of these same people.  There are approximately 436 million guns in the hands of civilians in the United States today.  For comparison purposes, there are approximately 332 million people in the U.S.  A few statistics here …

  • There are approximately 77.49 million adult gun owners in the US.
  • 2020 is believed to have had the highest number of firearm sales in history, with 39,695,315 background checks for the sale of firearms and explosives.
  • Approximately 30% of American adults own a gun.
  • Another 36% of adults could see themselves owning a gun in the future.
  • The average American gun owner owns five guns.
  • Personal protection is the most frequently cited reason for owning a gun.
  • Texas is the state with the most guns, while Delaware is the state with the least.
  • Wyoming is the state with the most guns per capita, while New York is the state with the fewest.
  • Handguns are the most commonly owned type of gun, followed by rifles, then shotguns.
  • Republicans are more than twice as likely as Democrats to own a gun.

So, we have a Recipe for Disaster.

  • Preheat
    • national temperature by lying repeatedly until large numbers of people believe the lies
  • Combine ingredients
    • Lies that Democrats are ‘coming to take away your guns’
    • Lies that LGBTQ people are somehow evil and are trying to take over your children’s minds
    • Lies that Black people are inferior and are trying to take over the nation
    • Lies that immigrants are criminals who will rob, kill and rape peoples’ families
    • Rhetoric shouted by politicians and their hired guns
  • Bake at escalating temperature until November 8th

I have to ask myself, as I’m sure some of you have asked yourselves, is this really a nation I want to live in, to be a part of?  If the few can have dominance over the many, and if those few are willing to shoot the rest of us to have their way, can this country really be said to be a democracy?  The answer to that is no, a democracy is …

“A system of government by the whole population, typically through elected representatives, by the majority of its members.”

By that definition, the United States is not a democracy when far too many of its members are kept from having a voice through various voter suppression ‘laws’, and currently the minority is planning to take over by hook or by crook.

History has shown that a foundation built on violence, built on robbing people of their rights, is not sustainable for long.  We have an opportunity in November to ensure those who support such treachery as proposed by the likes of Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon and others never happens.  Or, we can sit back and tell ourselves the fairy tale that it will all somehow work out in the long run.  Your choice.

11 thoughts on “Election By Vote … Or By Violence?”

  1. I was away in the city for awhile. It seems I missed your posts of this day, so I am answering a bit late.
    For starters, the numbers you quoted probably contain a lot of people who intend to do violence if the person they vote for loses, and a number of people who know someone who intends to do violence. I cannot see 64% of Americans thinking there will be violence, or America is really falling apart at the seams worse than I thought.
    But really, I think polling companies are no longer truly doing random surveys. My thinking is they are recording the contact numbers of people who will answer in ways they know will give them controversial results. Controversial results will bring them more national attention, and the more national attention they get the more they can charge for doing surveys. Once again it comes down to greed, and the Almighty Dollar!
    I don’t know how this can be verified or refuted, but looking at poll results from “Outside the Boxes” this is what it looks like to me. No one can be trusted anymore, especially pollsters!

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  4. “But still, the bloodlust continues. Why?” In a nutshell, religion. Religion teaches people that differences of opinions are not just mere differences, they are deep moral issues that will affect everyone forever. With no more logic than throwing a dart at a pinwheel, somehow the Republicans are now the party of God, and the Democrats are the party of the Devil. It doesn’t matter who actually acts better or follows any particular religious teaching, that’s how they were told it is, and that’s how they will vote, and if their vote doesn’t work out, the need to save everyone from eternal damnation is so great that violence is justified. In their stupid, stupid, religious minds.

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  6. When you have TV channels like one owned by a certain Australian and presenters who sell themselves as experts rather than ‘Entertainers’, interviewing these people constantly, their voices will carry far and wide. It’s very telling that one pundit was allowed to work in Viktor Orban’s world, supporting a regime he’d like to see in the U.S. which to me should be an imprisonable offence akin to being a traitor.

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    • You’re so very right … the right-wing media is a big part of the problem, amplifying the voices that call for violence. And even the mainstream media is not blameless. As I told Chris earlier this evening, if you had told me 10 years ago that this would be our state of affairs today, I would have laughed and said you were crazy. But today … SIGH.
      Cwtch

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