Yes, We DO Care!!! We MUST Care!!!

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At a circus in Michigan last Saturday, the head clown was the former guy, aka Donald Trump, and one of the minion clowns was Marge Greene, well known for her conspiracy theories and hate speech.  Now, I don’t generally pay attention to things that come out of Greene’s mouth, for to the best of my knowledge, she has never uttered a true or sensible statement yet.  However, something she said really galled me …

“We have so many problems here at home, I cannot even think about sending our money over to fund a proxy war with Russia. Zelensky doesn’t run the United States government. He is not our president, but for some reason Joe Biden bends over every single time. … The American people don’t care about that war over there.”

The American people don’t care about that war over there???  Oh yes … oh yes, we DO CARE!!!  What angers me most about this is the utter arrogance, the idea that somehow people in the U.S. must be above what happens in the rest of the world.  This is complete and total bullshit!  Somebody needs to inform Ms. Greene that she does NOT speak for “the American people”!  People, innocent people – grandparents, children, mothers and fathers — are being murdered in Ukraine by a madman who dreams of leading an empire and will step on anyone and everyone to realize his dreams.  How could we not care???

Somebody should remind Ms. Greene that we all share the same planet … that what affects one, affects all.  If Putin conquers Ukraine as he hopes, he will not stop there, but will move on to his next conquest, possibly Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania – all members of NATO. Putin has made no secret of the fact that he hopes to rebuild a Soviet-style empire. It is this sort of attempted world domination that led to WWII and could easily lead to WWIII.  The people in Ukraine are no different than the people in Marge’s own district in Georgia … just people trying to take care of their families and live in peace.  I wonder how Marge would feel if Mexico invaded Georgia and bombed homes, public buildings and hospitals, killing thousands?

I believe that all people, regardless of skin colour, where they live, ancestry, religious beliefs, gender, gender identity or any other distinctions are valuable.  The people in Ukraine who go to bed at night not knowing if they will wake in the morning, who send their children to school not knowing if the school will still be standing by afternoon, are just as human, just as valuable as any citizen of the United States or Russia or the United Kingdom or any other country.  It is one thing to take pride in your homeland … most everyone, regardless of where their homeland is, does.  But that does not mean that any one group of people are somehow superior to others.  This notion of “us vs them” is exactly why we cannot manage world peace.  It is arrogant and ignorant, and when people in positions of power promote the idea of nationalism over humanity, it is dangerous.

The time for isolationism, for extreme nationalism, passed when the age of technology shrunk the world, but apparently Ms. Greene (and others like her) have not been informed that we’re all in this together.  Her attitude would make us a pariah in the global community, would cost us any respect our allies may still have for us, and would make our position in the world far more dangerous for us all.  Somebody please vote the selfish, arrogant Ms. Greene OUT of Congress … send her back to her gym!

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  1. Just going to add a couple of cents related to the “Orca” conversation. The thing I’ve noticed coming from others that think like her is their view seems to be more about position/status rather than about care/concern for fellow humans.

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  2. Does this means next time Greene speaks about anything bad happening in Gregoria state like the floods last month we can all say…’Shut up. We don’t care. It’s nothing to do with us. Stop going on about it. Get your own mop and bucket and bale out,’
    Be a pretty mean thing I reckon, like I would be ashamed with myself.

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  4. I’m so glad to hear you say that. I had to sit on a train yesterday and listen to an American Trump fan who was saying the opposite, very loudly, with ‘mistaken’ facts and it was terrifying. Her argument was you do yours and we’ll do ours. It’s a universal problem and I think it comes from a complete lack of empathy, or lack of awareness of ones privilege.

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    • People like that disgust me to no end … I don’t even respond to them, for if I let myself start, I would likely end up smacking them! Best thing to do is walk away, but that would be rather hard to do on a train! I often wonder, though, how people with that attitude came to be so … is it genetic? Or a result of their upbringing? If scientists could figure that one out, we might stand a chance of teaching them to care about someone besides themselves.

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      • There was a young guy valiantly trying to argue his point but she kept closing him down. Genuinely in her case she had no concept of the privilege she owned as a white middle class female. I dont know her background of course but she radiated a lack of knowledge about the lives of others. So a long winded response but I think, as with so many other problems, the answer has to lie in education at a young age, and challenging our own biases. She obviously had only paid attention to people who agree with her.

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        • Unfortunately, you cannot reason with people like that. They are already determined that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong, and they don’t even listen to what anybody else says. It’s a waste of breath, patience, and time to even try, although I do it too … it seems to be the main purpose of my blog, to try to help people understand.

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      • I think it’s more genetic..a miss coding of something in the DNA.
        Some horrible parents have had children that turn out caring and kind. And vice versa…

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  5. A heartfilled, angry post. I like those very much. Unfortunately is yours bereft of any truth. You have no evidence to substantiate your fantastic claims, because there is no evidence!

    The only madman in Ukraine is Zelensky; and he is just the handpuppet of you know who. Biden and Nuland. Have you ever considered that all your photos are in fact from towns and and cities in the Donbass region of Ukraine? Plus Mariupol and Kharkov. Because that is where they were shot and showing the devastation Ukrainian military did to the 98% of ethnic Russians who live in those provinces and cities.

    And even if, let’s indulge your fantasies here for a moment and say Russia is actually invading Ukraine proper: Ms Greene is right. IT’S NOT AMERICA’S FUKN BIZNIZ!!! Did the Russians ever try to stop America when you where out doing your most evil and dirty stuff? Did they stop you from installing the Karzei wannabe regime in Kabul, did they protest when you tried – and fortunateley failed – to install fuxn Guaido in Venezuela? When you turned a prosperous Libya into a poor civil war shithouse?

    No, they let you be. But don’t think for a second America’s actions went unnoticed.

    And neither did they go unnoticed when you set up Ukraine as a trigger on which you can start a war. Fortunately did Putin not fall for the bait and the Russian army and allied forces are still on a very small scale, very restricted intervention. Not more, not less. If you’d watch independent media you’d know the truth.

    But apart from that, Putin is not at war with the Ukraine! If he were, there wouldn’t be a single house still standing. But no, the Russians didn’t even disturb public services: internet, phonelines, railway and bus lines. All still intact. They took control of the nuclear power plants to protect them from Zelensky’s desperate last-minute burned earth attacks.

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    • I’ll be brief Orca.
      Is this the hill you’re going to struggle on. With these words? Seriously?
      I don’t mind seeing a debate, even one totally at odds with my own views, but you are going full on Balaclava Light Brigade style

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      • Jill, this is my personal opinion, but I believe it is time to pull the plug on this raving maniac. The decision is yours, of course, but I thought I would let you know how I feel.

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        • I’m conflicted here rawgod since I have my own history of poking hornets’ nests (Naturally mine was with fellow UK Left-wingers- nothing worse than a ‘traitor’ to the cause).
          The reason why I raise this parallel is that similar views and opinions have been raised by those ‘fellow Left-wingers’ on UK sites. You’d be surprised (or maybe not) at the level of support Russia has. Assad of Syria benefitted from these folk too.
          Anyway we must leave this up to Jill.

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          • I’m conflicted too, Roger, as I told rg earlier. I don’t like to censor. I want to be open to all ideas, even those I don’t agree with. However, I have censored Scott Lawlor for his disrespect of both myself and my readers after he called me a b*tch for about the tenth time. Orca can be nice, but she is blind when it comes to Vladimir Putin and Russia, and her comments are not respectful at all. She presumes that she and she alone has all the facts, while the rest of us have the brains of a mushroom. I am conflicted about what to do here, but am leaning toward barring her future comments. I think I’ll see what my readers think tomorrow. Sigh. I want this blog to be a place where all views are welcome, but I do NOT want to turn it into a battlefield or a home for conspiracy theorists. Sigh.

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            • Indeed tough call Jill.
              Scott L stepped over the line with person abuse; lost cause and toxic, so problem there.
              You can analyse responses such as these in three possible ways:
              1. Mischief; poking hornets’ nests. (Go figure).
              2. A genuine ‘innocent angel’ (The term used by Tito and his folk for westerners who believed his was a free and democratic system, and thus supported him no matter what). A not uncommon grouping in the West – though these days they ‘regret’ there is a war in Ukraine but claim Putin was provoked. They tend to be anti-western governments, anti-USA and have knee-jerk condemnation; like MAGA devotees do to anything President Biden does. Mindset: China and Russia have no options but to act this way.
              3. One of the active folk with links to Russia who are true believers to the cause and spread comments like this as part of their role. That’s no conspiracy theory either, if you support them, it’s what you’d expect from your government, it’s what you pay your taxes for. If I was a russian ultra-nationalist I’d damn well expect them to be organising stuff like this. As I keep telling Orca, it’s what big nations do.
              Who can tell? 🤷‍♂️.
              I’ll support you Jill. 🐺❄️🐺❄️

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              • Thanks, Roger! I think your analysis of the three groups is spot on. I’m just not sure if Orca falls into the second or the third category. As you said, who can tell? 🤷 I appreciate your support, dear friend! I simply don’t have the energy these days to go head-to-head with the likes of Orca and even Dave, who at least isn’t blatantly disrespectful.

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                • I can assure you I don’t fall into any category, Jill. Having no skin in the game, just facts and my Germanic straightforwardness. Oh, and a dislike for the hurtful American wannabe hegemon.

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                    • I mean no skin in the Rus:Ukr conflict. No interest in their shit. I’m sure Russia will make sure everything turns out to the best. And if not … pfff.
                      I’m not hyper but averagely critical of the US, respectively their mingling and involvement … and their fuxn creation of the recent situation. You know it was the US behind jt all, do ya?

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                    • So, let me ask you something … do you not care about people? I’m not talking about your family and close friends, but if you read that there was a plane crash and 100 people were killed, do you not care? Do you not feel sad?

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                • Glad to help out Jill. But, yeah, I understand how you feel. I’ve had a few encounters on Facebook where my prevailing thought is ‘Just can’t be bothered with you. Other things to do,’ and zapped them. They probably thought they’d won, but sometimes you have to choose how to use your resources.

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                  • Agreed. Apparently some people have nothing better to do with their time and energy than to rile people for the sole purpose of starting an argument, but for me there are never enough hours in the day and I just won’t waste my time arguing with such people.

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                    • Yep. ‘Tis the case. There have been chores today and I suspect a post-covid booster jab-[ag. So I’ve shutting down early tonight (19.00 BST UK-Time). See you later Jill…..
                      Probably be back about 2- 3.00am your time.
                      🐺❄️🌻🌺🌼

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                    • I hope your booster goes well with no side effects! Goose and I were supposed to get ours last Saturday, but she fell in the shower and cracked a couple of ribs, so we postponed it … probably next Saturday! Have a great night, my friend, and remind me to tell you what Greta said about Dolly! 🚗🚗

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                    • We had the boosters over a week ago now (different days) but we get our own individual what I call ‘jab-lag’ when slight affect- effects come knockin’.
                      Would have replied earlier, but my usual laptop has battery failure. I took over Sheila’s old laptop which had been acting up……long story, and after doing a factory reset (involving cleaning the insides), then fighting Microsoft, MacAfee, HP (printer), Word (still under supervision) I’m kinda tuckered out (19:25 BST)…catch up tomorrow.
                      Catch-up, catch-up…..wot days (daze).
                      Learn about Greta’s whisperings tomorrow 🚗

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                  • “So, let me ask you something … do you not care about people?”

                    Of course do I care! That’s why I’m on side of the Donbass rebellion. And in extension Russia, for they are helping the rebels against the Ukrainian oppression, same as NATO helps Ukraine in terrorizing Donbass. Coz that’s where the war is fought. Ukraine proper is largely untouched by that conflict.

                    Don’t you get it that this is a proxy war and the West willing to fight it to the last Ukrainian? It’s them, our glorious western leaders, who don’t give a fuk about the people.

                    Do you trust in your own Prof. Mearsheimer? Here:

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                    • Initially the special operation was to aid the Donbas separatist Russian community.
                      Yet Russian forces moved from Belorussia ,at the other end of Ukraine and sent columns to Kyiv and Kharkov, in central Ukraine. Also there was a missile strike upon Lviv; 15 missiles from the Polish border.
                      Now militarily this makes perfect sense if you are intending to occupy or break the will of an entire nation.
                      It does not fit in with a strategy of aiding a separatist area. Nor does it support a statement that Ukraine ‘proper’ is largely untouched.
                      And I do not agree with Professor Mearsheimer here. Whereas I can support some of his views on aggressive realism, here again I do not agree with his idea that NATO and the USA provoked Russia and left it no choice.
                      To follow this argument allows a justification of the USA involvement in Vietnam (Claim: Communist threat to Democracy ), explain that Israel is entitled to protect its people, no matter what and that China can deal with the Uyghurs as it sees fit.
                      He also makes are error of using the phrase ‘How did we get here’- that could equally apply to Russia.
                      Russia was quite capable of playing a soft power game to win back Ukraine and Georgia. But they calculated they could do as they did in Syria and Chechnya.
                      Well that was an error because this was Europe and there are different rules.
                      Support Russia if you like, blame the USA and the West if you want to.
                      In the scheme of international politics and military effort, it still comes out that Russia bungled the whole business. Russia faced Hubris. Russia attacked in 2022 along a broad front and a lot of people are dying.
                      This is another large nation making an error.

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          • Vietnam was a planned mistake by the USA, as was Korea, Iran, Iraq, Cuba, half of central America, Chile and any other small conflicts.
            The claim Communist threat to Democracy doesn’t work anywhere and in no context. If that is what the people want, I let them dabble with it and stay the phucque out of their hair. Look, Vietam is doing not great but reasonably fine nowadays. I don’t even wanna imagine how it would look today if America and it’s opera regime had won.

            “Russia was quite capable of playing a soft power game to win back Ukraine and Georgia. But they calculated they could do as they did in Syria and Chechnya.”
            What’s that, a soft power game? Puting holding great stunning speaches at the UN and G7 summits and getting ignored, as always, while Zelensky puppet regime bombs he living daylight out of Donbass? All on Washington’s order with the declared goal to force Russia (or Putin if you prefer) to interfere. This is all well-documented. The US wanted this war. Now they got it.

            “But they calculated they could do as they did in Syria and Chechnya.”
            Nope. In Syria they were called in for help in the fight against ISIS. That’s what they did.
            In Chechnya they got a bloody nose … and nowadays the Chechen fighters are a valuable ally and huge part of the special operation in Donbass. In fact is most of the fighting done by the Donbass militias, the Wagner mercenaries and the Chechens. Russian troops stay in the background, facilitating the allies with air and artillery support. As they did pretty much from the beginning of the struggle in 2014. Factually it’s the Donbass militias fighting for their own land … with frenly support.

            The newly assembled army of, what, 300k fresh recruits?, will be a safety measure and contain obvsly both republics’ militias and Russian soldiers. It’s not, as the western press claims, an emergency assembly, but a new unit, particularly created as a territorial power, in order to protect the new republics for as long as Ukraine can still send some shells into the area. And Russia wants to achieve that without draining already existing units. It’s what I’ve been told about the recently ongoing stuff. Sounds like a good plan I guess.

            “Russia bungled the whole business.”
            The ruble is on the rise, Ukraine slowly becoming a luxury problem, as it will falter and collapse soon enough. I have no idea what the great plan is once the Russians have staked their claim. (Odessa is still missing). I guess Poland and Hungary will take back what once was theirs and the Ukrainian heartland will fall under UN or Russian administration, for what it’s worth. I guess nobody wants to adopt that problem child. But time will tell. I can see no bungle in the jungle. Just the contrary. It’s quite an achievement what the Donetsk, Luhansk, Chechen, Wagner and Russian troops have done with such a small force. And that without any greater disturbance of the Ukrainian heartland, its infrastructure and services.

            “Russia attacked in 2022 along a broad front and a lot of people are dying.”
            They mostly went into the DPR and LPR land, where they were welcomed as saviours. With a little bit less enthusiasm in Mariupol, Kherson and Kharkov. Well, the fight isn’t over yet but I hear experts saying Ukraine’s collapse is imminent. And we all hope that with Zelensky also his US/EU/NATO handlers will disappear. It’s about time for the nightmare to end.

            The massacres you’re speaking off, yes, they happened. No doubt about that. Only it was the other way round. Since almost 9 years it’s the people in Donbass getting killed wholesale.

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            • Oh, one more thing I forgot: The Russians bungled the special operation as Ukraine wasn’t allowed to sit down at the negotiating table. US and EU sabotaged Zelensky’s affords to reach a peace treaty. That presented Russia with the completely new aspect that they would have to go far further than their original goal. Now not only the Donbass but suddenly the whole Ukraine presents itself. 😮

              I guess that is why the special operation is turning into a real small scale war. 😦 Russians and allies are cocky enough to fight till the very happy end, the rest of us will “live in interesting times”. 😦

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        • I’m having an internal debate on this, rg. I try hard not to censor comments unless they are disrespectful to my readers, but … I wonder whether perhaps it’s time to also block conspiracy theories and outright lies such as this. Give me a day or two to ponder on it.

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  6. Jill, Mary’s first sentence is telling. We need to care. We need leaders to be among our better angels not our worse demons. The two people you mention from this rally are not among what I would call our better angels. I do agree we must have healthy debate on how much to send as money is not infinite, but we do need to stand up to autocratic power grabs as when we don’t we may be next. And, we certainly should not do what we condemn, as we have been hypocritical as a country and still are on more than a few occasions.

    People wonder why Iran does not trust us. It is because the US participated in a coup to oust an elected leader in 1953 to install the Shah of Iran. And, while we fought Nazi Germany in World War II for its genocide and its invasions of other countries, we had our own brand of anti-semitism and Jim Crow stuff going on our shores.

    We must seek to live up to our ideals. We tend to fail at that too often. Keith

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    • Indeed so … we cannot turn our back on others in need. If we do, then first of all it speaks volumes about our own lack of humanitarianism, and secondly, then some day when we are the ones in need, those we ignored will also ignore us. Yes, there are limits to what we can do, and yes, there are people here also in need, especially after last week’s hurricane, but to simply say the Ukrainians don’t matter because they aren’t “Americans” is in my book cruel and ignorant. No, Greene and many others either in Congress or seeking congressional seats are NOT among our better angels, and neither are the people who put them in office. While Greene and her ilk may turn their backs on those who are suffering, fortunately there ARE many good people … think of Chef Andrès of World Central Kitchen, for one … who care and jump in wherever they are needed. Those are the ones I will most remember.

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      • Jill, it is funny that the church card the Republican Party advocates like to play says some things on the other side of the card. Such as taking care of your neighbors and who some guy named Jesus called “the least of these.” He also spoke of treating people like you want to be treated. In my crazy way of thinking that includes immigrants and migrants seeking a better life and it includes people in poverty. It also includes those who are being assaulted by autocratic leaders like Putin. If that were not sufficient, some guy named Gandhi said a community’s greatness is measured by how it takes care of its less fortunate. People like Greene, Trump et al just do not seem to understand that concept.

        Keith

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        • That is something that has always puzzled me. I’m not a Christian, but know a little bit about the Bible and Jesus and I always thought that Jesus urged people to treat everyone with kindness and compassion, and yet … so many of those whose main talking point is their Christianity are cruel and insensitive. How … how do they reconcile their religious teachings with their words and behaviours?

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  7. Some of us may care, but the truth is many don’t. Not only about Ukraine, but poor people here, immigrants seeking refuge and minorities. We have become a very selfish arrogant people. Not all,of course, but most republicans and all of the trump cult and the apathetic. People in power care about themselves only.

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    • You’re so right, my friend. Far too many in this nation, especially our leaders, worship wealth. The rest of us are only a means to an end for them. The lust for power and wealth will destroy this nation if we let it.

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  8. Well said! But from reading Scottie’s post which you reblogged it is not only people in other countries who are beneath notice!

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    • This is so true! The big events like a hurricane, series of tornadoes, wildfires, etc., get plenty of attention, but we have our share of humanitarian crises in this country — homelessness, hunger, poverty — and those are largely ignored by most. Even mass shootings such as the one earlier this year in a school that killed 19 children around the age of 8, come and go in the news cycle. We have had 4 mass shootings already this month, but have you even heard about them? No … guns are among our biggest humanitarian crises in this country.

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