So, let me ask a question here: If a man attempts, but fails, to murder your daughter, causing her grievous personal injury from which she may never fully recover, when he gets out of prison after serving for only a few months, will you give him a hero’s welcome? No, I didn’t think so. And yet, when a man attempts to murder the democracy of your nation, to render your vote null and void, he gets the royal carpet treatment. WTF is wrong with the people in this country???
Remember this asshole?
Jacob Angeli Chansley, commonly called the “QAnon Shaman”, was one of the Trump supporters who broke into the Capitol building on January 6th with the intention of overturning the 2020 election, scrapping President Biden’s electoral win, silencing the voices of the people, and installing Donald Trump as “president”. In November 2021, after pleading guilty, he was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the insurrection/attempted coup. And then, he was released on May 25th, after serving only 18 months, two of them in a halfway house – less than half of his sentence. And he arrived home in Arizona to a hero’s welcome.
According to AZ Central …
A crowd of more than 150 people gathered at Reformed Living Bible Church in Scottsdale on Sunday to celebrate the homecoming of Jake Angeli, one of the most prominent figures at the raid on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
Angeli opted out of the painted face and shed the fur and horned hat that earned him a national spotlight. Instead, the man who has been nicknamed the “QAnon Shaman” addressed the crowd in a white suit and American flag tie. “Here I am saying hello, a couple years later, in a much more public way than I ever anticipated and it’s really surreal, almost like a dream,” Angeli said to the crowd.
An organizer of the event, Susan Wood of Scottsdale, told The Arizona Republic on Friday that the event would be a chance to reintroduce Angeli to the public.
Wood said she met Angeli at the various protests and marches he participated in during 2019 and 2020. “He was always just so happy and energetic and fun and nice,” she said. “We were like, what is he doing in prison? He’s not dangerous or anything.”
NOT DANGEROUS OR ANYTHING???? Seriously??? Ms. Wood needs to remove her head from her posterior and read the United States Constitution, if she is capable of reading at all, that is! This man assisted in what could have resulted in the death of a nation and DID result in the deaths of at least five law enforcement officers! NOT DANGEROUS??? I suppose she is a fan of Adolf Hitler, too! He was, after all, just a kind, gentle man who happened to hate Jewish people, eh? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr …
I ask again, WTF is wrong with the people of this nation???
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I take a perverse comfort from the fact that this is nothing new.
After the canning of Charles Sumner by by Preston Brooks, Brook was sent many canes from folk in pro-slavery areas.
Despite the disastrous news coming out of China during the Cultural Revolution, there were plenty on the Left who were unconditionally praising Mao Zedong.
During the height of the Syrian Civil War our own home grown Left-wing mirror images of your Right were excusing Assad and Putin for the mass slaughter of civilians.
And at a lesser level how many obnoxious young jerks with pretentions to playing guitars or shouting into a microphone, indulging in excessive life-styles of selfish hedonism (and still not grown up) were followed by legions, who still talk fondly of them.
Blind idiocy in the alleged cause of rebellion has been one of those plagues in our histories.
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Sigh. I hadn’t thought about it that way, but yeah … your examples are all spot-on. Some portion of “civilized” society apparently worships cruelty and puts those who engage in it on a pedestal. What a mixed up world we live in.
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Seems to be a constant curse.
In some accounts of the roman emperor Caligula historians centre on his populist moves and constant mockery of the higher echelons, using his position to abuse rather than develop.
Just the sort of stuff Trump gets up to
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Yeah … Trump and numerous others these days.
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That handyman who worked on my house last week said that there was no violence at the Capital on January 6, that everything that was reported was all “media-based” & that the “democrats made everything up” . I kid you not.
Real nice guy, really good-looking & I bet he’s great in bed, but lousy politics like all his type.
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OH. MY. GOODNESS. Unbelievable!!! You are more patient than I am, for I’d have thrown his tools out in the yard and told him to get the hell outta my house no matter how good-looking he was!
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Nah, he does really good work at a good price & that’s hard to find nowadays.
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That’s the truth!!!
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Sometimes pragmatism is the best way
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I don’t see the point in being mean or nasty or snarky (no matter how much I may want to!) when dealing with people who think differently than I do or arguing endlessly with them or showing them the door. My only reason for not dealing with people (either in person or online) is when they are abusive & I have gotten a LOT of that … especially online. There’s people online who I used to follow & I don’t anymore. One person in particular who you all follow & quote & think is the cat’s pajamas, but he’s really abusive if you don’t agree with him 100%. I won’t mention his name but it starts with an S & ends with an E. I’ll be honest, I miss him but after the way he treated me, I won’t talk to him ever again. Especially since he blames ME for the problem, like all abusers.
I won’t allow people to abuse me. I went through too many years of therapy for that. I am still in therapy.
But I’m not going to end friendships or shun family members just because they vote GOP or have views that I think are stupid or wrong or whatever. We’re all different. & everyone has a right to think whatever stupid things they want to. & honestly … I’m getting too old for these kinds of arguments.
That said, I don’t have to go out of my way to be with these people. LOL
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There has always been this inclination within Humans to get snarky and all too often escalate the situation, drawing in supporters on both sides. There are myriad of triggers ranging through the arts, social movements, religions, economics, politics, sports (of course), and probably others I have forgotten.
I am no better really. With my battle cries of ‘Intolerant of Intolerance’ ‘I’ll give ’em a taste of their own medicine’ there has been a trail of debris across Facebook, and Word Press.
And I’ve been told off enough by my long suffering wife to back out of Facebook, where even a comment about the weather can spark a fury.
After a 40+ year career in the UK Civil Service my face to face exchanges tend to be more diplomatic, trying to bring that to social media.
Sometimes though triggers do set me off, at 72 you’d think I would know better. But once a grumpy old geezer (my wife reckons I was born that way)…….
Yours, my mind tells me is the better approach, but like that dog with a bone (or stick)…. trying to be more diplomatic though.
The person you mentioned as me stumped a bit, but like many a British male of later years, it’s a case of:
‘I never forget a name or a face, though I sometimes have a problem putting the two together,’ – and these days even getting the two factors to the fore is becoming an issue…..Oh well.
Take care and best wishes.
Roger
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My husband, who is, sadly, a Trump admirer, has no problem with the Jan. 6 violence, and I suspect he has wiped it from his memory banks. We Do Not Discuss any of this. After 50 + years of marriage, some things are best left alone.
I seriously cannot get my head around the idea that an intelligent man can buy into this insanity.
I also think I’d find myself a new handyman.
There have been times when I wish I was younger, so I could enjoy the things I really enjoy for a longer time…but for me that Jan. 6 thing feels like the warning rumble of a volcano, and what we’re seeing now is a steadily growing explosion that hasn’t happened yet. But considering the fallout from this, and how screamingly difficult it seems to be to nail Trump to a wall (yes please) over this, …
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I’ll keep my handyman but I don’t think I could be in a marriage like that. You can keep your mouth shut for an hour or so with a person working for you but I would go out of my mind if I had to live like that 24/7. Which is why I don’t have a husband. LOL
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I’m the same, Polly … no way could I live with someone day & night whose views and values were so very different, but then after 50+ years of marriage, I can understand that she has too much invested in her marriage to simply walk away.
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I sincerely feel for you! After 50+ years of marriage, it must be shocking to find out his views are so different from your own. I don’t know how you manage to avoid the subject, but thumbs up to you for being able to do so … I don’t think I could.
As for your assessment of the times … you are so right. I think January 6th was only the start. I am 72 and many a day I find myself saying that I’m glad I’m old and not likely to see the worst that will happen, but I do worry about my children and grandchildren … I had always hoped to leave them a better world.
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Events like this make me even more convinced that America will never again be unified in my lifetime.
Best wishes, Pete.
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Sadly, I think you’re quite right.
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I think it is more serious than people having no sense. They openly support these heinous acts, it is quite scary. The most scary is that they seem to think they are the good guys. Their minds are twisted.
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You’re so right … it is very scary to see this nation being overwhelmed by those who would install a dictatorship, who seem to be tired of democracy and would rather be told what to do, when and how to do it. Sigh.
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It’s not just in the, U.S., that this sort of shit is, happening, but, all over the world, as the leaders, the political parties in the countries, all around in the world, try to gain control of, the governments we are, enslaved, by, and, no matter how you work it, it’s always going to be, we, the people, who end up, paying for it all, dearly, but, unfortunately, as a, “most intelligent” species, we never, learn, so, we, as a whole, still, continued, suffering, for the decisions made for us, by a few that controls, everything in the, government…
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Yes, you are quite right. Just this morning I was reading about what’s happening in Pakistan and then there’s the re-election of the dictator Erdogan in Turkey … it’s global, it seems. I would have to question the designation of humans as the “most intelligent” species, though, for I really don’t think so anymore.
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Yet his photo is constantly shared. If the media would just stop giving them (including the orange one and his extremists) all the oxygen & focus, instead, on truth how much better everyone would be.
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I would like the post but I just can’t since it is those who wanted to take down our democracy and they continue to breed hate. They use patriotism as a ruse. Heather Cox Richardson has a wonderful blog on FB and has “receipts” for everything she writes. She teaches history at Boston College and is fantastic at relating the past and the present.
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I fully understand! “Liking” a post, though, is really just a way of saying to the writer, “Hey, I was here and I read your work”. I do subscribe to Heather Cox Richardson’s nightly newsletter on Substack and am almost always impressed by her analytical thinking. Another good one to follow is Joyce Vance, who also writes on Substack and whom I only recently discovered.
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Thank you. I will look Joyce up. I will also go back to your post.
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I fully agree! The media needs to stop giving so much attention to all of the buffoons, including Trump & DeSantis. It’s a fine line, with both Trump & DeSantis being official candidates, but when they are simply spouting crap, then it should be ignored. If the press had ignored Trump once he left office … completely and totally ignored him … I still believe he would have faded into oblivioun, for he thrives on attention and would have withered without it. And we wouldn’t have ulcers and heart problems and all the rest!
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Oh, so true. I find pleasure in reading Jay Kuo’s posts as well since he gives us all the legal jargon going on. His latest is about the espionage act and it’s a dandy. Of course, you will know who it refers to right away without even reading.
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I had not heard of Jay Kuo, but just checked him out on Substack and subscribed! Thanks for the tip!
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Jill, nothing surprises me anymore. When a person who is well documented as untruthful from multiple sources of data and personal anecdote, who has been found liable for sexual misconduct and defamation in a court of law, been held accountable by settlement for housing discrimination and misuse of charitable funds by his Foundation, whose company has been found guilty of tax fraud, and who may be charged soon with election meddling, misuse of classified funds, more business fraud and seditious actions is the front runner for his party’s presidential nomination, then supporting a person who committed treason is not a huge stretch. Yet, all of the above have been done in courts of law, so to claim these actions are political is a stretch.
We should also remind these folks, said person lost all but one of 65 or so court cases citing election fraud and every recount, review and audit of votes. And, if that were not enough, Fox News is our $1 billion plus and counting for defamation in lying for the former president and has many internal emails that say they knew Trump was lying. Keith
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No, nothing should surprise me, either, but yet it does. When folk crowd around this sorry excuse for a man and want to just touch him, to get his autography …. I am reminded of The Beatles when first they toured the U.S. At least they had musical talent … this Chansley dude brings nothing to the table. The adoration for a disgusting person like this is reminiscent of Kyle Rittenhouse and how certain members of Congress have fawned over him. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr …
You are, of course, right … Trump set the bar so low that many won’t and don’t have to stretch even a little to reach it. He seems to have set the ‘standard’ for today’s Republican Party … and a mighty low bar it is.
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Thanks Jill. I chose not to know his name as giving celebrity to criminals elevates the notoriety. He was likely remorseful in front of a judge and now boastful of his crime. We cannot aggrandize seditious actions, whether one is in costume or president of the United States. Full stop. Keith
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True, which is why when I write about a mass shooting, I rarely include the name of the killer unless there’s good reason to. Too many people worshipping lunatics these days. Sigh.
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Thank you Keith.
It is the only dignified way.
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This Washington Post article might explain a lot:
The revolt of the Christian home-schoolers
It’s about a couple who decided to send their kids to public school, instead of continuing the home schooling.
I’m thinking that many of the people who were involve in the Jan 06 insurrection were probably home schooled and not well exposed to reality. That’s why they could be deluded enough to think that their breakin could be successful. And many of the people giving that “hero’s welcome” may also have been living within the evangelical bubble.
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Wow, Neil! Fascinating article, albeit one that raised my hackles. It certainly gives some insight as to why so many evangelicals are so very ignorant in the ways of the world, so narrow-minded and … bigoted in every sense of the word. Thanks … I had seen the headline in the Post, but didn’t bother to read it until you sent this link.
I’d bet you’re right about the people involved in the January 6th insurrection … they thought they were protecting something, for they were conditioned to follow their leaders and do as told. One thing in defense of homeschooling, though … my daughter and I homeschooled my granddaughter for health reasons, not religious ones, and she actually has a better education than many others her age I know of. She was taught by two college-educated people and was taught, first and foremost, to think for herself, to reason, to research and understand issues. But no doubt those fools who are giving Chansley the “hero’s welcome” are devoid of any ability to understand what actually took place on January 6th and why. Thanks for the article … very interesting!
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Welcome home, Shaman Shithead! I guess it was all worth it after all. The girls while be swarming you to have your Shaman babies. You’ll always have some bed or other to sleep in! But don’t make Tinyballs Trimp jealous. He’ll refuse to pay your legal fees!
Oh, he already forgot? Sucker!
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Ha ha … you do have a way with words!
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I try. Some days are better thsn others…
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I hear you!
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Nicely put.
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Lol. Sometimes I say things well
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That you do good friend, that you do
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Can you believe how delusional these people are? They thought they were going to overthrow the US Government with what, a small group of under-armed, miscreants laboring under a misapprehension? They couldn’t make it past the Capitol Police.
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Delusional, yes, but they damn near succeeded, too, given that they had help from the ‘man’ sitting in the Oval Office and his minions as well. We dodged a bullet — one that I never want to see again!
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I keep seeing that noose. I keep seeing the (former)vice president refusing to get into that car.
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Yes, those two images have remained in my mind as well … chilling. Even more chilling is that I think “they” have learned from their mistakes, but have we? Will “they” succeed next time?
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As one of my favorite bloggers would write, “Grrrrrrrrrr.” Hugs ‘n cheers
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Gee … I wonder who that could be??? Thanks so much, Michael!!! Hugs and cheers
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What price Paul Gosar gives him a job?
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‘Twouldn’t surprise me one bit … or Marge Greene, or Matt Gaetz, or … any number of others!
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Will there be any words in front of ‘job’ I wonder……
‘Well paid’ I meant of course
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I was thinking ‘sinecure’….
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Your comment lends a certain air of dignity to the observation.
May they enjoy a mutual partnership suspicion and cheating.
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‘Dignity’ isn’t a word I’d associate with that lot. A bunch of crooks.
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Me neither, I was referring to your style of linguistic delivery
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Ah, sorry, missed the compliment 🤣
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😀👍
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So where’s our anti hero’s main sources of income now? What shady employer would be willing to hire him?
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Think about Kyle Rittenhouse, the young punk who borrowed an assault rifle to cross state lines and kill people at a BlackLivesMatter protest … an otherwise peaceful protest. He is being treated as a hero and numerous members of Congress are encouraging him to become a congressional aide! I suspect Mr. Chansley will land on his feet and will be given a number of opportunities. Sigh. People have no sense!!!!
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Popularity does not need to translate into usefulness in my eyes
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Agreed.
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