Another of S&G’s big hits tonight, continuing with S&G Week …
In his 1984 Playboy interview, Paul Simon revealed that he wrote this song when critics were writing harsh things about his music – he was “the boxer.” Said Simon:
“I think the song was about me: everybody’s beating me up, and I’m telling you now I’m going to go away if you don’t stop. By that time we had encountered our first criticism. For the first few years, it was just pure praise. It took two or three years for people to realize that we weren’t strange creatures that emerged from England but just two guys from Queens who used to sing rock ‘n’ roll. And maybe we weren’t real folkies at all! Maybe we weren’t even hippies!”
This song took over 100 hours to record, with parts of it done at Columbia Records studios in both Nashville and New York City. The chorus vocals were recorded in a church: St. Paul’s Chapel at Columbia University in New York. The church had a tiled dome that provided great acoustics.
Sometimes what is put in as a placeholder lyric becomes a crucial part of the song. That was the case here, as Simon used “lie la lie” in place of a proper chorus because he couldn’t find the right words. Simon said: “I thought that ‘lie la lie was a failure of songwriting. I didn’t have any words! Then people said it was ‘lie’ but I didn’t really mean that. That it was a lie. But, it’s not a failure of songwriting, because people like that and they put enough meaning into it, and the rest of the song has enough power and emotion, I guess, to make it go, so it’s all right. But for me, every time I sing that part, I’m a little embarrassed.” Simon added that the essentially wordless chorus gave the song more of an international appeal, as it was universal.
It was during the recording of “The Boxer” that Art Garfunkel met his future first wife, Linda Grossman. As he recalled:
“I invited Linda to the studio that night… we were working on “The Boxer.” She was reluctant, but she thought she’d try it. She came, sat over the engineering console, with her chin on her wrist, staring at me, Paul and Roy for four hours. She was going to know everything. I was impressed and flattered. I like people who third-degree me, who stare at me, I feel they’re interested. And we went out afterwards, and I was very charmed and we dated a lot. It took us about three years though before I had the courage to ask her to marry me.”
The legendary session drummer Hal Blaine created the huge drum sound with the help of producer Roy Halee, who found a spot for the drums in front of an elevator in the Columbia offices. As recounted in the 2011 Making of Bridge Over Troubled Water documentary, Blaine would pound the drums at the end of the “Lie la lie” vocals that were playing in his headphones, and at one point, an elderly security guard got a big surprise when he came out of the elevator and was startled by Blaine’s thunderous drums.
The opening guitar lick came courtesy of the session player Fred Carter Jr., who Simon hired to play on the track. Simon would often use another guitarist to augment his sound.
Simon added he is glad the chorus is wordless because “a deep truth of songwriting is we love to sing nonsensical sounds.”
The song charted at #3 in Canada, #6 in the UK, and #7 in the U.S.
The Boxer
Simon & Garfunkel
I am just a poor boy
Though my story’s seldom told
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocket full of mumbles
Such are promises
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest
When I left my home and my family
I was no more than a boy
In the company of strangers
In the quiet of the railway station
Running scared
Laying low, seeking out the poorer quarters
Where the ragged people go
Looking for the places
Only they would know
Lie la lie, lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Asking only workman’s wages
I come looking for a job
But I get no offers
Just a come-on from the whores
On Seventh Avenue
I do declare
There were times when I was so lonesome
I took some comfort there
La la la la la la la
Lie la lie, lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Then I’m laying out my winter clothes
And wishing I was gone
Going home
Where the New York City winters
Aren’t bleeding me
Leading me
Going home
In the clearing stands a boxer
And a fighter by his trade
And he carries the reminders
Of every glove that laid him down
Or cut him ’til he cried out
In his anger and his shame
“I am leaving, I am leaving”
But the fighter still remains
Lie la lie, lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, lie la lie
Lie la la la lie la lie, la la la la lie
Writer/s: Paul Simon
Publisher: Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Universal Music Publishing Group
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This is one that should never be covered by another … not even Emmy Lou
I’m amazed that which affected us so way back when still does
(1s & 0s: it still rings a bell)
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I cannot even begin to imagine what Emmylou Harris’ cover of this would sound like, and I’m not going to go find out, either … it could possibly wreck my day!
Yep, this is definitely one that withstands the test of time.
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She does a good cover, the best, but she shouldn’t
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That’s how I feel about some that my favourite Motown artists covered … I love them, love their style, but there are some songs they’ve covered that they really should have left alone.
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Thank you. I was 11 when I met Mike Mantia, a leader in Dayton’s golden gloves. I was always getting into disputes at the Boys Club game room bumper pool table which often ended being drug to the gym where Mr Mantia put it to orderly resolution in the ring. He taught me how to jab and put power into an overhand. I was a terrible boxer. I valued myself poorly and would embrace the punishment just to land a blow. But the fighter still remains 👌
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😊 Somehow, none of that surprises me!
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Ah, I’m going to sing the whole day now 😁🌹
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AWESOME!!! I’m so glad!
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This is just one of so many songs I love from the S&G songlist. To write all of them would be too much, so I will give the video for one and name some lesser-known others: Six O’Clock News/Silent Night, El Condor Pasa, and 59th Street Bridge Song.
My feature: At the Zoo!
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Another one I love. I remember the first time I heard it on the radio, and thought it was witty that they named it “The Boxer,” then the boxer wasn’t even in the story until the tag end. Now I just enjoy the song-thank you!
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I’m really glad you enjoyed it, Ali! I’m having fun with S&G Week and I’m glad you are, too!
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😍😍😍
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Thanks Jill for choosing this one, one of the most hypnotic, haunting songs Paul Simon ever wrote.
What’s with the fuss over ‘Lie la’ ???? Breaks like that are common enough in songs. Simon was beating himself up over that. It could be the wordless break folk often use when singing to themselves. Over-thinking there.
Interesting snippet about Hal Blaine; the drummer with a legendary output as a session musician.
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My pleasure, Roger, and I’m really glad you liked it! As re the fuss over “Lie la lie …”, you’ve got me … no idea. I rather like it, for some reason.
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Me too 🙂. For years I used to sing ‘Dah-dah-dia’ instead. Just one of those sing-along lines.
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Not my favorite S&G, but there is one line in the song that says it all (and always will): “Still a man hears what he wants to hear.”
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Oh yes … how very true!!! So, mm, what IS your favourite S&G tune?
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The one I heard you play
Just the other day:
THE SOUND OF SILENCE….
Oh — there’s another one too:
MRS…. you know who.
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🤣 You are so GOOD at that, mm!
I tried to respond in kind,
but there’s a flaw in my mind.
Maybe I’ll try again tomorrow,
If another’s mind I can borrow.
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Thanks a million for sharing yet another insightful backstory of this fabulous musical gem.
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My pleasure, Frank! I’m really glad you enjoyed it.
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Jill, many thanks for the terrific background to the making of “The Boxer,” probably my favorite Simon and Garfunkel. I would likely go with “Kodachrome” as my favorite Simon solo song. Keith
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Thank you, Keith!!! You’re the 2nd person to mention Kodachrome … I must check it out, for it isn’t ringing any bells, but then … lots of times I find I know the tune but not the title.
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A true pop classic. But just one of many great songs on a fantastic album.
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Thanks, Clive! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
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Stupendous song. Cwtch
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I’m happy that you liked it! I think you’ll like today’s, too 😉 Cwtch
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