Here We Go Again …

Well, friends, it’s 2024 … the year we’ve all waited for with both expectation and trepidation.  The 2024 presidential election “season” started in January 2021, as soon as the 2020 election was put to bed and President Biden took his Oath of Office, 715 days ago.  Long days filled with violence, rhetoric, lies, conspiracy theories, but also hope.  And now we have only 305 days until the next election – one that will no doubt test the boundaries of our endurance, our patience, our friendships, and perhaps even our sanity.  Numerous topics will be addressed in the coming months, but one stands out in particular and Robert Reich addresses it perfectly …


The “I won’t vote for the lesser of two evils” rubbish

Recalling a discussion I had with Chris Hedges in 2016

By Robert Reich

04 January 20234

Some people tell me they hate Trump but don’t particularly like Biden. They say Biden is too old, or he’s not doing enough to stop Israel’s bombing of Gaza, or he’s caved to Big Oil, or he isn’t tough enough.

So they tell me they’re not going to vote next November. Or they’ll vote for a third-party candidate.

Maybe you know someone like this. Or you yourself fall into this camp.

Here’s what I tell them: By not voting or voting for a third party, they’re actually casting a vote for Trump.

Some respond by saying that Trump may be a curse, but they’re sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.

Wrong. Biden is not evil. Trump is truly evil.

If there’s one argument I can’t stand, it’s the “I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils” argument.

The fact is, America has a two-party system. You may not like it, but that’s our reality. The founders did not opt for a parliamentary system, where citizens have more options of whom to vote for.

So one of the nominees from one of the two major parties is going to win. And if you don’t vote, or you vote for a third party candidate, you’re inevitably hurting the candidate from one of the major parties who’s closest to you in values — and helping the one farthest from you.

Which perhaps wasn’t of huge consequence 50 years ago. But as the Republican Party has gone fascist, with unhinged Trump at its head, the potential consequences of your not voting or voting for a third=party candidate are horrific.

In 2016, many people knew Trump was out of his gourd. But they disliked Hillary Clinton so much they decided to sit on their hands, or vote for the Green Party candidate, Jill Stein, rather than vote for what they described as “the lesser of two evils.”

And look what we got.

If Trump gets back into the Oval Office, it’s likely to be even worse this time.

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On Amy Goodman’s “Democracy Nowbroadcast of August 4, 2016, I debated journalist and author Chris Hedges, who was supporting Green Party candidate Jill Stein. [The following transcript has been edited for length. You can find the unedited transcript here, or if you have the time you may want to watch the entire 35-minute debate, which I’ve posted here.]

Me: Hillary Clinton is going to be the nominee. I support her. And I support her not only because she will be a good president, if not a great president, but also, frankly, because I am tremendously worried about the alternative. And the alternative is somebody who is a megalomaniac and a bigot who will set back the progressive movement decades, if not more.

Hedges: Clinton has abandoned children. She and her husband destroyed welfare as we know it, and 70 percent of the original recipients were children. I don’t like Trump, but Trump is responding to a phenomenon created by neoliberalism. And we may get rid of Trump, but we will get something even more vile, maybe Ted Cruz.

Me: If Donald Trump becomes president, irrevocable negative changes will happen in the United States, including appointments to the Supreme Court that will worsen the structure of this country. Voting for Donald Trump or equating Hillary Clinton with Donald Trump is insane.

Hedges: I admire Robert and have read much of his stuff and like his stuff, but if you listen to what he’s been saying, the message is the same message of the Trump campaign, and that is fear. And fear is all the Democrats have to offer now and all the Republicans have to offer now.

Me: Given our two-party, winner-take-all system, it’s just too much of a risk to say, “I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils.” If you do not support Hillary Clinton, you are increasing the odds of a true, clear and present danger to the United States, a menace to the United States. And you’re increasing the possibility that the United States will be changed for the worse. I must urge everyone who is listening or who is watching to do whatever they can to make sure that Hillary Clinton is the next president, and not Donald Trump.

Hedges: I find Trump a vile and disturbing and disgusting figure, but I don’t believe that voting for the Democratic establishment [will help]. The TPP [Trans Pacific Partnership] is going to go through, whether it’s Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Endless war is going to be continued, whether it’s Trump or Clinton. We’re not going to get our privacy back, whether it’s under Clinton or Trump. The idea that, at this point, the figure in the executive branch exercises that much power, given the power of the war industry and Wall Street, is a myth.

***

Starting five months after this discussion, we had four years of Trump. We saw what his bigotry and hatefulness did to America. We witnessed how he divided America into two angry camps that are still furious with each other. We endured his giant tax cut to the rich and big corporations. We watched his attempted coup. We suffered through his refusal to concede the 2020 election and his big lie that it was “stolen” from him. He is now running again, in an even more paranoid and bigoted campaign than in 2016 or 2020.

I rest my case.

Jill Stein is running again in 2024, and thus far two others —  Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Cornel West — have declared their third-party or Independent candidacy, with more considering it as an option, including Liz Cheney.  They stand zero chance of winning the election, but could well skew the results and create havoc.

A Quick Peek at “The Other Two” Candidates …

There are two third-party candidates on the ballot for president this year:  Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party, and Jill Stein of the Green Party.  I wrote briefly of these two candidates, their views, and their chances in this election in a post in July, and I thought this would be a good time to take a look at their current activities and how their campaigns are going.  With Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton dominating the news these days, we haven’t heard a lot from Johnson and Stein.

According to Real Clear Politic’s aggregate of polls,  Johnson currently stands at 7.3% and Stein at 2.4% of the vote.

Gary Johnson

In a September 8th interview on MSNBC, Johnson was asked how, as president, he would address the refugee crisis in Aleppo. (Link to video)  ] Johnson first said, “Huh”, then “And what is Aleppo?”  Astonished MSNBC commentator Mike Barnicle first said, “You’re kidding.” But once Johnson assured him that he was not kidding, Barnicle proceeded to explain in very simple terms that “Aleppo is in Syria.  It’s the epicenter of the refugee crisis …”  Johnson:  “Okay … got it! Well, with regard to Syria, I do think that it’s a mess. I think the only way that we deal with Syria is to join hands with Russia …”  It is almost painful to watch.  But it doesn’t end there …

gary-johnsonOn Wednesday (28 September), again on MSNBC in a town hall-style interview, Johnson was asked by host Chris Matthews, “Who’s your favourite foreign leader?”  Johnson stumbled, looked around as if hoping to wake up and find himself anywhere but there, and finally said, “I guess I’m having an Aleppo moment.”  At least the guy can laugh at himself.  Matthews tried his best to help Johnson, saying, “Any one of the continents, any country, name one foreign leader that you respect and look up to, anybody.”  But still Johnson drew a blank.  It goes on, but as with the ‘Aleppo moment’, it is painful to watch.  I actually felt sorry for the man.  I cannot help but think that ‘Aleppo moment’ will become a pop-culture expression, and when I forget where I put the pasta I just bought yesterday, I will say, “Oops … I must be having an Aleppo moment!”

Nobody is perfect, nobody can remember everything that goes on in the entire world.  However … I think most adults who are able to read know where Aleppo is and are aware of its significance in the world today, and I think even those who have not picked up a newspaper for the past decade could name at least one foreign leader.  This man claims he is capable of being the President and Commander-in-Chief of one of the most influential western nations, yet he does not know about the #1 hotspot and cannot name a single foreign leader?  In the beginning, I had some respect for Mr. Johnson, but now I merely have sympathy for him.  How in the heck is he ranking 7.3% in the aggregate polls when he cannot answer a simple foreign policy question?  Oh wait, never mind … I just answered my own question. And Johnson has slipped from about 9% last week, so it is likely that his ineptitude is having an effect on his ranking.

 

Jill Stein

stein-paintsMs. Stein is not faring any better these days than Mr. Johnson.  First, Ms. Stein joined a protest of the Dakota Access Pipeline in Standing Rock, North Dakota in the beginning of September.  Not content to simply carry a sign, or voice her protest, Ms. Stein spray-painted the words “I approve this message” on a piece of equipment – a bulldozer.  You can watch for yourself  .  Stein was charged the next day in Morton County with misdemeanor counts of criminal trespass and criminal mischief.

Then, to add insult to injury, she attempted to prove herself more informed than her opponent, Mr. Johnson, by poking fun at him via Twitter1.  She named Elizabeth May, João Stédile, and Jeremy Corbyn.  Unfortunately, none of the three are actually world leaders, as Politico was quick to point out.  Ms. Stein responded to the criticism by saying, “I admire real leaders, not politicians who sell their people out to the global economic elite for power.”  Sigh.

There you have it, folks.  It would appear that third-party candidates cannot afford competent campaign staff to coach them. I predicted in July that neither of these third-party candidates had a chance of winning this election.  I stand by my earlier prediction.  Anybody disagree?

1 Why is it that all communication from the candidates this year seems to happen via Twitter.  Is it that they are only capable of thinking 140 letters at a time?  Personally, I dislike Twitter and never tweet, though my blog posts are automatically shared on Twitter.

A 3rd Party President? Not Likely

So, it is now official:  the two candidates vying for President of the United States are Hillary Clinton (Democrat) and Donald Trump (Republican).  One of those two will be the next president, as will be decided by the voters on 8 November 2016.

Neither of these two seem overly popular.  Clinton’s unfavorable ratings are between 55% – 57%, while Trumps are between 57% – 62%.  So, are there other choices?  What about 3rd party candidates, you ask?  Okay, I keep hearing a couple of names bandied about, so here is my take.

First, it is important to note that no third-party candidate has ever won a U.S. presidential election. That’s right … since the first presidential election in 1789 until present day, 227 years, 56 elections, no third-party candidate has ever won the office of president.  The strongest showing for a third-party candidate came in 1912, when former President Teddy Roosevelt left the Republican Party. He ended up coming in second, with 27.4 percent of the popular vote and 88 electoral votes.

Add to that the fact that neither of the third-party candidates in this race are particularly well-known, and the odds that either would be elected go from slim-to-none.  Although there are some 16 independent candidates, only two have surfaced as being semi-viable candidates:  Jill Stein and Gary Johnson.  A brief look at both:

  • steinJill Stein is an American physician, activist, and politician. She is currently the Green Party’s presumptive nominee for President of the United States in the 2016 election. Stein was the nominee of the Green Party for President of the United States in 2012, and was twice a candidate for Governor of Massachusetts—in 2002 and 2010. She received 469,501 votes in 2012 (0.36% of the total votes).  On June 22, 2015, Stein formally announced her candidacy for the Green Party’s 2016 presidential nomination. Stein has polled as high as 7% in general election polling. Stein has asserted that it is “hard to say” whether Trump or Clinton is the “greater evil”. She has asserted that the “two corporate parties”, the Democratic party and the Republican party, have converged into one and the same party.
  • Stein advocated a “Green New Deal”, in which renewable energy jobs would be created to address climate change and environmental issues; the objective would be to employ “every American willing and able to work”. Stein said she would fund the start-up costs of the plan with a 30% reduction in the U.S. military budget, returning US troops home, and increasing taxes on areas such as speculation in stock markets, offshore tax havens, and multimillion-dollar real estate. She is in favor of cancelling all student debt, wants to cut U.S. military spending by at least 50%, and wants to close US overseas military bases. Stein calls for pardoning Edward Snowden, and has said that she will put him on her Cabinet if elected President. Stein proposes to make the United States transition to 100% renewable energy by 2030 and supports a national ban on fracking. She has spoken against nuclear energy, saying “nuclear energy is dirty, dangerous and expensive, and should be precluded on all of those counts”. Stein argues in favor of a “Medicare-for-All” healthcare system. She has been highly critical of Israel, accusing the Israeli government of “apartheid, assassination, illegal settlements, blockades, building of nuclear bombs, indefinite detention, collective punishment, and defiance of international law.”

My take? Her platform is incomplete, with no mention of immigration, and very little to the social issues facing the nation today. Additionally, much of what she proposes is unrealistic.  She does not have experience in governance and no real qualifications for the job.


  • johnsonGary Johnson is an American businessman, politician and the Libertarian Party nominee for President of the United States. He served as the 29th Governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2003 as a member of the Republican Party. He was the Libertarian Party’s nominee for President of the United States in the 2012 election. Two years ago, when asked whether he would run as a Libertarian or a Republican in 2016, he stated that “I would love running as a Libertarian because I would have the least amount of explaining to do.” 
  • Johnson’s views have been described as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Johnson has said he favors simplifying and reducing taxes, and during his governorship, Johnson cut taxes fourteen times without ever increasing them. Johnson has said that he supports balancing the federal budget immediately, and advocates “slashing government spending”, including Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, and would cut Medicare and Medicaid by 43 percent. He opposes foreign wars and pledged to cut the military budget by 43 percent in his first term as president. He would cut the military’s overseas bases, uniformed and civilian personnel, research and development, intelligence, and nuclear weapons programs. Johnson is a strong supporter of civil liberties and received the highest score of any candidate from the American Civil Liberties Union for supporting drug decriminalization while opposing censorship and regulation of the Internet, the Patriot Act, enhanced airport screenings, and the indefinite detention of prisoners. He has spoken in favor of the separation of church and state. Johnson endorsed same-sex marriage, but opposes Roe v. Wade, and is opposed to gun control.

While he has more experience than Stein, some of his proposals are impractical at best. But then, nearly all of Trump’s proposals are impractical, if not impossible, so …


Now on to the real topic here … do either of these two have a realistic chance of winning the election?  In a nutshell, no. Ballot access in states and rigorous requirements to enter the general election debates, the Electoral College, and the lack of a clear ideological opening make this talk little more than a protest.  In 1992, Ross Perot won 20% of the votes, but failed to win a single state.

world-upside-down-2That said, there is one scenario under which an independent could actually win the presidency.  If neither Clinton nor Trump win an absolute majority, then the new House of Representatives would select the winner.  Assuming that a third-party candidate had won at least one state, he could, conceivably be chosen to be the president.  Some believe, given the unpopularity of both Clinton and Trump, that this is a realistic scenario.  Personally, I doubt it, but then in this topsy-turvy election year, I have been wrong more often than I have been right, so who knows?

If any third-party candidate has a chance, it would be Johnson over Stein, as his poll numbers are significantly higher than hers.  Most polls rank Stein at 3%-4%, as opposed to Johnson who, though he is showing 13% in one poll, averages 6%-10% in all other polls.  (Data source:  RealClearPolitics)  In order to participate in the debates, the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) requires that candidates poll at 15 percent in five national surveys leading up to the three scheduled debates and that they garner enough spots on state ballots to chart a path to the White House.  If Johnson does not meet the above criteria, he will not participate in the debates, in which case he has little or no voice on the campaign trail.

In short, I do not expect a third-party candidate to win the election, but a credible candidate like Johnson may well have an effect on the results.  But that is a story for another day, as this post is already too long.

2016 General Election Debate Schedule:

  1. 26 September – 1st Presidential debate – Hampstead, NY
  2. 04 October – Vice Presidential debate – Farmville, VA
  3. 09 October – 2nd Presidential debate – St. Louis, MO
  4. 19 October – 3rd Presidential debate – Las Vegas, NV